Larrivee Guitar Forum

Main Forums => Recording, Pickups, Live Sound, etc. => Topic started by: ronmac on March 22, 2006, 06:31:54 PM



Title: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 22, 2006, 06:31:54 PM
During the last few days there have been several very strongly worded posts regarding "this is better than that".

So, I decided to let you knowledgeable folk have a go at proving how you can differentiate brand, body size, tone woods, etc. in a real live test. The following clip was randomly chosen from some recording I did yesterday of a guitarist laying down some rythym parts for his new album. It is exactly as recorded; no compression, no effects, no tweaks.

http://www.ronmacnutt.com/Music/What.mp3

Have a listen to this clip and identify the following:

1) Guitar brand
2) Body size
3) Tonewood combination
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle
5) 80/20 or PB strings
6) Coated or uncoated strings
7) Pick material/thickness

Prizes? You want prizes? Well we've got prizes!!!!

1st Prize   First person to correctly identify all 7 components listed above

I will fly the winner to Nova Scotia, feed and water them for two weeks, and make sure they go home with some nice musical memories (including the guitar that was recorded)!

2nd Prize  First person to correctly identify any 6 components listed above


I will buy the winner a new LSV-11 Larrivee guitar!

3rd Prize  First person to correctly identify any 5 components listed above


I will buy the winner a new 03 series guitar, any body size, any tonewood combo that is available

This should be very easy for most of you. There are no embellishments to the tracks, and no other tracks hiding the intricate qualities that are so easily identified.

Let the games begin!!!!!!





Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: Barefoot Rob on March 22, 2006, 06:35:23 PM
I'd like offer a bribe for the first prize Bob,I need the lesson's and a paid 2 week vacation would do my complexion wonders'. :GRN>




Sorry no speakers at work and tonite is my nite off after I pick the man child up from karate.


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 22, 2006, 06:40:08 PM
Sorry Rob, the judicial system in Canada is above all of that, and can't be bribed!

OK, sometimes they blurt out things without thinking after having a few too many Scotches...


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: Barefoot Rob on March 22, 2006, 07:40:45 PM
Can't kick a guy for tryin. :GRN>


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: jimmyd on March 22, 2006, 08:10:03 PM
Got to be
1- Esteban
2- The fancy black one
3-Mystery laminate wood-like composite
4-vintage Plastic
5- PB
6-coated  with cheese food product
7- AARP temporary membership courtesy card

If I wn I want to give away the trip to unclrob. I'll keep the guitar, unless it's an Esteban. Unclrob can have that too.


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: jeremy3220 on March 22, 2006, 08:34:56 PM
So, I decided to let you knowledgeable folk have a go at proving how you can differentiate brand, body size, tone woods, etc. in a real live test.

This isn't live.


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 22, 2006, 08:42:53 PM
This isn't live.

You're right, it isn't live. It isn't even Memorex. :GRN>

Stop making excuses and give me your answers!


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 22, 2006, 08:43:54 PM
Got to be
1- Esteban
2- The fancy black one
3-Mystery laminate wood-like composite
4-vintage Plastic
5- PB
6-coated  with cheese food product
7- AARP temporary membership courtesy card

If I wn I want to give away the trip to unclrob. I'll keep the guitar, unless it's an Esteban. Unclrob can have that too.

Sorry jimmyd. You are 0 for 7.


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: LookingForLarri on March 22, 2006, 08:50:25 PM
Ok,  I'm sure my answer will prove:

1) I am tone deaf
2) I need better PC speakers
3) I am clueless

but here goes

1) Martin
2) 000
3) Rosewood / Sitka
4) tusq nut and saddle
5) 80/20 strings
6) Uncoated strings
7) Medium Nylon pick



Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: sfumato on March 22, 2006, 08:55:34 PM
Hi - new to the forum but this looked like much more fun than the endless "my guitar can beat up your guitar" tirades  -_-

Plus, there are prizes at the end of this thread  :WNK>

So, here are my guesses:
1) Guitar brand   Larrivee
2) Body size   OM
3) Tonewood combination   Sitka/Rosewood
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle   bone
5) 80/20 or PB strings   PB
6) Coated or uncoated strings   coated
7) Pick material/thickness   celluloid medium





Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 22, 2006, 09:16:14 PM
Hi - new to the forum but this looked like much more fun than the endless "my guitar can beat up your guitar" tirades  -_-

Plus, there are prizes at the end of this thread  :WNK>

So, here are my guesses:
1) Guitar brand   Larrivee
2) Body size   OM
3) Tonewood combination   Sitka/Rosewood
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle   bone
5) 80/20 or PB strings   PB
6) Coated or uncoated strings   coated
7) Pick material/thickness   celluloid medium





0 for 7

Welcome to the Forum


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 22, 2006, 09:18:14 PM
Ok,  I'm sure my answer will prove:

1) I am tone deaf
2) I need better PC speakers
3) I am clueless

but here goes

1) Martin
2) 000
3) Rosewood / Sitka
4) tusq nut and saddle
5) 80/20 strings
6) Uncoated strings
7) Medium Nylon pick



Congratulations! You got the first 3 right. Oh, sorry that's a different contest. :GRN>

2 for 7

You're leading the pack, but it doesn't mean diddly. No prize for you!


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: LookingForLarri on March 22, 2006, 09:35:10 PM
You're leading the pack...

Great, because if you not leading the pack the view never changes and if your on a dog sled team the view isn't that appealing.


How many guesses do we get ?


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: sfumato on March 22, 2006, 09:44:44 PM
0 for 7

Ha ha, oh well - I guess that makes me a total newbie!


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 22, 2006, 09:47:22 PM
1) Guitar brand-gibson
2) Body size-Dread
3) Tonewood combination-Sitka/Mahogany
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle-FWI
5) 80/20 or PB strings-80/20
6) Coated or uncoated strings-Uncoated
7) Pick material/thickness-Nylon Pick/Thin

I'm gonna kick myself if it's maple.  Sounds A LOT like a Gibson J-45. Possibly a WM-45?


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: Randy_R on March 22, 2006, 10:16:32 PM
If people post their guesses (er: educated opinions) on the forum, and Ron postes their score... One may eventually be able to pick the right choices mathematically.

I just thought I'd confuse the process..


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: SR on March 22, 2006, 10:17:28 PM
 After listening over it again here's my take.  :GRN>

1) Guitar brand-Taylor
2) Body size-Dread
3) Tonewood combination-Sitka/maple
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle-tusq
5) 80/20 or PB strings-80/20 Elixers
6) Coated or uncoated strings-coated
7) Pick material/thickness-Nylon Pick/Thin

Sounds like a Taylor 610 to me.


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 22, 2006, 10:20:23 PM
Randy, what's the fun in mathematically figuring it out?

SR, I changed it to a gibson...it really sounds like a J-45 to my ears. Us firsties are probably not gonna win jack, but it's fun trying!  I'm a gambling man!


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: SR on March 22, 2006, 10:21:22 PM
just reread your take roknroll.


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 22, 2006, 10:25:16 PM
You know someone with like 12+ High end guitars is going to win this!  I'm thinking the guitar is more costly than a Gibson J-45...seeing how 2nd price is a VERY expensive guitar, but oh well, I'll stick with my gut.


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: Tycho on March 22, 2006, 10:35:32 PM
To make it more fun, I'm posting my guesses before reading any answers after jimmyd's and part of LForL's.

1) Martin
2) OM or 000
3)Mahogany/spruce
4) Tusq
5) 80/20
6) uncoated
7) Medium pick.

Going back now to see how wrong I was.


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 22, 2006, 11:33:39 PM
I also think it's a vintage guitar.


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: LookingForLarri on March 22, 2006, 11:58:30 PM
Not sure if this is allowed but here is guess #2



1) Martin
2) OM
3) Mahogany / Cedar
4) tusq nut and saddle
5) 80/20 strings
6) Uncoated strings
7) Medium Nylon pick




Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: Denis on March 23, 2006, 12:20:58 AM


Have a listen to this clip and identify the following:

1) Guitar brand
2) Body size
3) Tonewood combination
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle
5) 80/20 or PB strings
6) Coated or uncoated strings
7) Pick material/thickness


1 Larrivee
2 L
3 mahogany/spruce
4 tusq nut and saddle
5 80/20's
6 uncoated
7 .60mm tortex pick


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: parsky1 on March 23, 2006, 06:49:03 AM
To be honest I think you might have a better chance at winning powerball :P


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 11:58:35 AM
To be honest I think you might have a better chance at winning powerball :P

Now there's a guy that has it all worked out! You're right, it will be difficult to win. Just like the Lotto folks, and those nice folks in Vegas, the dealer is holding a pretty good hand in this case.

Since Randy hasn't committed yet to an answer I'm going to assume that he is "counting the cards" and waiting for the math to do the work for him. Well I'm not going to let that stop me!

rocknroll        2 for 7
Tycho           1 for 7
Looking         1 for 7
Denis            1 for 7         (Denis I was really hoping you would win. Your plane fare wouldn't be that expensive for me!)

I also just realized that I didn't cap the entry date. Contest closes at 5 PM Eastern. I will reveal the winners (unlikely there will be any!) at that time.

I hope the artist gets as many listens to his CD when it is completed.  :UND>


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: Randy_R on March 23, 2006, 12:33:42 PM
I took a test last fall put on by luthier Tim McKnight where I actually had samples of woods in my hands to examine, and I still only got 50% right...

 :angry:


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 01:21:26 PM
do we have more than one try?


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 01:23:14 PM
do we have more than one try?

Sure!


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 01:52:19 PM
1) Guitar brand-Line 6
2) Body size-none
3) Tonewood combination-none
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle-none
5) 80/20 or PB strings-80/20
6) Coated or uncoated strings-uncoated
7) Pick material/thickness-nylon/heavy


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: jmhyer on March 23, 2006, 01:53:02 PM
I love this, Ron!  I think it's proving your point brilliantly!!  Wish I'd thought of it.  -_-


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 01:55:25 PM
I know it's either something really obscure like a line 6 guitar, or it's a really crappy brand, or it's a really high end guitar than nobodys ever heard of using woods that nobodys ever heard of.  My question is, ron, have any of us actually ever heard of this guitar brand?


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 02:00:40 PM
1) Guitar brand-yamaha
2) Body size-parlor
3) Tonewood combination-all mahogany
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle-corian
5) 80/20 or PB strings-80/20
6) Coated or uncoated strings-uncoated
7) Pick material/thickness-nylon/heavy

this is driving me nutz!  I cant wait to find out...


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: Denis on March 23, 2006, 02:25:55 PM

Denis            1 for 7         (Denis I was really hoping you would win. Your plane fare wouldn't be that expensive for me!)


Yeah, it would probably cost you less to fly me to NS then to buy me a new 03 series!!!


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 02:45:40 PM
It is a brand that everyone here knows of, and more than likely have played.


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: Barefoot Rob on March 23, 2006, 03:11:44 PM
Cool since we can try twice how about a $100 and a nice bottle of wine.OK I'll throw in a really tasty Italian dinner for too.....OK I do the dishes and clean the house....... :GRN>


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 03:27:01 PM
Cool since we can try twice how about a $100 and a nice bottle of wine.OK I'll throw in a really tasty Italian dinner for too.....OK I do the dishes and clean the house....... :GRN>

You're getting real close!


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: Barefoot Rob on March 23, 2006, 03:36:32 PM
OK all the cards up,make $176.43 plus I'll cook and clean for the 2 weeks I'm there....I'll leave the wife and child at home.........HOWS THAT FOR SWEEEEET. :GRN>


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: LookingForLarri on March 23, 2006, 04:48:44 PM


1) Taylor
2) Baby
3) All Hog Baby !!!
4) tusq nut and Bone saddle
5) 80/20 strings
6) Uncoated strings
7) Fender Medium pick



Quote


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 04:57:53 PM
1 of 7 LFL



Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 05:10:42 PM
1) Guitar brand-Alvarez
2) Body size-Jumbo
3) Tonewood combination-spruce/Padduk
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle-corian
5) 80/20 or PB strings-80/20
6) Coated or uncoated strings-uncoated
7) Pick material/thickness-pick/heavy


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 05:14:36 PM
ron, how about you just reward me for trying so hard :GRN>.  Then I can come out there and record some songs and make a one hit wonder.  Wanna be my manager?


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: jimmyd on March 23, 2006, 05:16:03 PM
Seagull
Dread
Cherry/Cedar
Tusq
80/20
uncoated
Fender type-  medium


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: LookingForLarri on March 23, 2006, 06:28:01 PM
roknroll,

  since we have two correct answers each I say you fly up, make that one hit wonder and then send me the autographed guitar you used  :GRN>

1) Martin
2) 000
3) brazilian / sitka
4) tusq nut and saddle
5) 80/20 strings
6) Uncoated strings
7) Martin Thick pick



Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 06:32:21 PM
2 for 7 is the best anyone has done so far.



Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: LookingForLarri on March 23, 2006, 06:38:43 PM
2 for 7 is the best anyone has done so far.




I know, that would be me and roknroll.  My last guess still 2 for 7 ?

1) Martin
2) 000
3) brazilian / sitka
4) tusq nut and saddle
5) 80/20 strings
6) Uncoated strings
7) Martin Thick pick


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: Denis on March 23, 2006, 06:40:17 PM


1) Guitar brand
2) Body size
3) Tonewood combination
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle
5) 80/20 or PB strings
6) Coated or uncoated strings
7) Pick material/thickness


1 Larrivee
2 OM
3 sapele/spruce
4 Tusq for both
5 80/20
6 coated
7 .88 mm tortex



Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 07:05:24 PM

I know, that would be me and roknroll.  My last guess still 2 for 7 ?

1) Martin
2) 000
3) brazilian / sitka
4) tusq nut and saddle
5) 80/20 strings
6) Uncoated strings
7) Martin Thick pick


1 for 7


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 07:05:59 PM
1 Larrivee
2 OM
3 sapele/spruce
4 Tusq for both
5 80/20
6 coated
7 .88 mm tortex



0 for 7

 :<>


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 07:50:03 PM
1) Guitar brand-Takamine
2) Body size-slope shoulder
3) Tonewood combination-cedar/mahogany
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle-elephant ivory
5) 80/20 or PB strings-80/20
6) Coated or uncoated strings-Uncoated
7) Pick material/thickness-copper


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 07:58:51 PM
1 for 7

 :rolleyes: ^_^ :rolleyes:


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 08:11:49 PM
1) Guitar brand-tacoma
2) Body size-0000
3) Tonewood combination-sitka/ovonkol
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle-plastic
5) 80/20 or PB strings-80/20
6) Coated or uncoated strings-Uncoated
7) Pick material/thickness-plastic/heavy

Come on ron! I really need this!(mainly the free recording)


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 08:15:48 PM
any more hints :GRN>?  high end guitar or low end...


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 08:23:35 PM
1) Guitar brand-tacoma
2) Body size-0000
3) Tonewood combination-sitka/ovonkol
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle-plastic
5) 80/20 or PB strings-80/20
6) Coated or uncoated strings-Uncoated
7) Pick material/thickness-plastic/heavy

Come on ron! I really need this!(mainly the free recording)

2 for 7


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 08:24:12 PM
any more hints :GRN>?  high end guitar or low end...

You won't appreciate the prize if you don't have to work for it.  :TON>


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 08:32:51 PM
1) Guitar brand-Ovation
2) Body size-Shallow Cutaway
3) Tonewood combination-Sitka/plastic bowl
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle-plastic
5) 80/20 or PB strings-80/20
6) Coated or uncoated strings-Uncoated
7) Pick material/thickness-Nylon/heavy


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: Barefoot Rob on March 23, 2006, 08:42:24 PM
Come on Ron there not going to get it
Lucida classical coated steel strings plywood plastic dime in the parlour with a hole in the back from a 12 guage shotgun while dancing with a kangaroo to a waltz in 9/7 time on a friday at highnoon.








 :GRN>


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: LookingForLarri on March 23, 2006, 08:44:50 PM

1) Gibson
2) Slope Dread
3) sitka / mahogany
4) FWI
5) PB strings
6) Uncoated strings
7) Medium Nylon pick




Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: cjbarrett on March 23, 2006, 08:57:07 PM
a wild stab in the dark...

1) Martin
2) OM (000)
3) Engelmann Spruce/Blackwood
4) FWI
5) 80/20
6) Coated
7) Thin Nylon pick


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 09:23:25 PM
a wild stab in the dark...

1) Martin
2) OM (000)
3) Engelmann Spruce/Blackwood
4) FWI
5) 80/20
6) Coated
7) Thin Nylon pick

0 for 7


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 09:23:50 PM
1) Gibson
2) Slope Dread
3) sitka / mahogany
4) FWI
5) PB strings
6) Uncoated strings
7) Medium Nylon pick




2 for 7


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 09:36:15 PM
1) Tacoma
2) jumbo
3) sitka / mahogany
4) FWI
5) 80/20
6) Uncoated strings
7) No pick


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 09:37:20 PM
1) Tacoma
2) jumbo
3) sitka / mahogany
4) FWI
5) 80/20
6) Uncoated strings
7) No pick

1 for 7


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 09:39:19 PM
1)
2)
3)
4)
5) PB strings(it has to be!)
6) Uncoated(again, it has to be!)
7)


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 09:41:50 PM
ok, so

1Ovation
2 Shallow cut cutaway
3 cedar/bowl
4 tusq nut/bone saddle
5 PB strings
6 uncoated
7 fender thin pick


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: LookingForLarri on March 23, 2006, 09:41:57 PM
1) Taylor 
2) x12
3) engleman / rosewood
4) Plastic
5) PB strings
6) Uncoated strings
7) Medium Nylon pick



Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 09:42:14 PM
1)
2)
3)
4)
5) PB strings(it has to be!)
6) Uncoated(again, it has to be!)
7)

OOPS, sorry you're disqualified for not completing all of the questions!

No guitar vacation for you!


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 09:44:33 PM
oh well, at least I'll found out what it is eventually... this is driving me bonkers :SHK> :SHK> :SHK>


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: Finalannsa on March 23, 2006, 09:49:05 PM
1) Guitar brand-                        Guild
2) Body size                              00
3) Tonewood combination          hog-top
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddletusq/tusq
5) 80/20 or PB strings                PB
6) Coated or uncoated strings     uncoated
7) Pick material/thickness           plastic/medium



Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: LookingForLarri on March 23, 2006, 09:54:04 PM
roknroll, Your out meaning I was the first one still in the game with two corrects.  That's gotta be worth something ! Maybe a jam session and a few drinks with unclerob ?

Next Guess

1) Taylor 
2) x12
3) engleman / rosewood
4) Plastic
5) PB strings
6) Uncoated strings

7) Medium Nylon pick



Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: cjbarrett on March 23, 2006, 09:54:55 PM
i'm new to this place and terrible at this game....but I am enjoying it.

1) Bourgeois 
2) JOM
3) spruce / maple
4) Ivoroid
5) PB
6) Uncoated
7) Thin Celluloid


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 09:58:07 PM
I think ron was just scared that I was getting to close to the truth :GRN>  The more I hear it, the more it sounds like an ovation.  Someone guess ovation!


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: parsky1 on March 23, 2006, 10:01:23 PM
Gibson
L-00
Hog / Sitka
Plastic
PB
Uncoated
Dunlop Tortex .73


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 10:07:30 PM
looks like times up kiddies...so ron, what's the good word!


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 10:12:18 PM
The polls have closed and the audience awaits.... :<>

Well my banker is very happy to learn that there were no winners. :<>

And the answers are:


1) Guitar brand                                Yamaha FG300 ($100 pawn shop)
2) Body size                                     Dreadish
3) Tonewood combination                 Yellow plywood top, reddish brown plywood b/s
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle       Plastic (but really nice plastic)
5) 80/20 or PB strings                       PB D'Addario EJ16
6) Coated or uncoated strings            Uncoated
7) Pick material/thickness                  Tortex .66




Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 10:18:56 PM
well that was anticlimactic...


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: LookingForLarri on March 23, 2006, 10:21:36 PM
Enjoyable though.  At least I got up to three with my final guess.  :UND>

More
More
More  !!!

That Yamaha threw me,  does it have a dovetail or a fingerjoint neck  :GRN>

 


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 10:23:51 PM
well that was anticlimactic...
\

Life is like that. A lot.


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: LookingForLarri on March 23, 2006, 10:29:28 PM
The polls have closed and the audience awaits.... :<>

Well my banker is very happy to learn that there were no winners. :<>

And the answers are:


1) Guitar brand                                Yamaha FG300 ($100 pawn shop)
2) Body size                                     Dreadish
3) Tonewood combination                 Yellow plywood top, reddish brown plywood b/s
4) Bone/tusq/etc. nut and saddle       Plastic (but really nice plastic)
5) 80/20 or PB strings                       PB D'Addario EJ16
6) Coated or uncoated strings            Uncoated
7) Pick material/thickness                  Tortex .66




From what I can find the Yellow plywood top is actually sitka and the reddish brown plywood b/s is either Rosewood or Nato.  Many people love these guitars and I should kick myself since my son has a Yamaha JR1 that is very close to this model only in  3/4 size.


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 23, 2006, 10:37:24 PM
The player is a 23 year old who bought this guitar used for $100 (Canadian) when he was 16. He loves it!



Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: SR on March 23, 2006, 10:53:03 PM
That was interesting and fun,and fun test  :GRN>


Thanks Ron hmmm now will have to get my ears checked,or at
least listen to a few more guitars from the audience prespective.  :SHK> :GRN>



Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: roknroll on March 23, 2006, 11:29:27 PM
yeah, it was fun. thanks ron.


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: kwakatak on March 24, 2006, 01:15:36 AM
Yeah, that definitely was interesting and eye-opening. In a way it sounded a lot like my Takamine.

I just goes to show that those old Japanese plywood boxes are good guitars in the right hands.  :ph34r:

(you're not stopping my GAS for a Larrivee though!)  :wacko:


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: Barefoot Rob on March 24, 2006, 03:29:15 AM
OK back to the bribe's I offered I can sweetin it by $22.18.......... :GRN>


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: drathbun on March 30, 2006, 12:34:56 AM
How much do you want for the Yamaha?


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 30, 2006, 11:53:40 AM
NFS! The owner is very happy with it.

He broke a string before our recording session on Tuesday so I let him try out my acoustics. He had never played, or even knew of, any of the guitar brands so it was fun to see him try them all out with a completely unbiased view. He was quick to reject some and lingered over a few others while he was trying to find one that "felt" right. I wished I had recorded the process. It would have been a good study in selecting an instrument by tone and playability, rather than by brand image.

He settled on using the Bourgeois for laying down a few more rythym tracks. The L10 was a close second. He loved both guitars and wants to use my guitars for the rest of his album.

I hope he doesn't look back several years from now and see me as the one that put him on the road to GAS. :SHK>


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: rockstar_not on March 31, 2006, 05:18:55 AM
Ron,

That was absolutely brilliant, highly entertaining, and worthy of a 'sticky' thread when string wars or wood wars or nut wars or saddle wars or opening up wars or ___ wars spring up on the forum.

The fact of the matter is that it is nearly impossible to do a proper double-blind A/B subjective test (many times since the strings on A have more age to them than the strings on B), let alone guess a single trait based on a recording.

Kudos to you for the great recording technique.

-Scott


Title: Re: How good are your ears? Tell me what this is.
Post by: ronmac on March 31, 2006, 11:25:31 AM
Scott,

It was entertaining, for me at least.

I have seen many great artists playing instruments that would be deemed not worthy of quite a few bedroom pickers. I'll put my money on man, over machine, any day.