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Title: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: allengeetarr on March 02, 2006, 05:07:47 AM
By that I mean acoustic vs. electric.

I started a few years ago with a cheapo Washburn hyper-start copy, got a nice Tele, bought a Jimmie Vaughan Strat and then a Danelectro reissue, all through a Fender Pro Jr. Spent WAY too much time tiddling knobs for "that" sound instead of studying...

Then I bought my Seagull Folk and all of the plug in guitars were gone. After that a nice Regal RD40 round neck resonator. And then of course I got my OM-03R recently and I am realy ruined. Oh, and I received a Vega banjo 5 string for the Dannelectro....

All of my electrics are now sold,traded or given as gifts. To me electrics just are not "real" guitars. They have no feel, no soul, and they do not allow your body to actually feel the notes. No flame meant, just my opinion.

Am I alone in this?


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Tycho on March 02, 2006, 05:26:41 AM
I guess if push comes to shove, I'm still more of an electric GASser.  When it comes to acoustics, I've got a dread, a very nice OM, a 12-string, a parlor and a spare beater, and that strikes me as more than enough.  (I understand that one could want one of each in rosewood and mahogany, and maybe a maple or hog-top, but that way lies madness!  For me anyway.)

For electrics, on the other hand...well, you need a Strat, a Tele or two, various different humbucking options, something with P-90s, solid bodies, semi-hollows, 12-strings, a sitar....

I play in two cover bands, so I've convinced myself I need all those different options.  (Yeah, right.)


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: mrrinse on March 02, 2006, 08:58:32 AM
Don't think I'm an acoustic snob (others may differ!), but I'm playing acoustic almost exclusively at the moment. I've noticed, particularly when recording (when the ruffle of your clothes and breathing can screw up a take!), that the acoustic guitar requires a much greater degree of control and sensitivity than electric - at least for solo fingerpicking. I guess that's a bit of an unfair comparison since most of the electric recording I do is within the context of other instruments, but I think it probably still stands up (?).

My electrics are mostly collecting dust, and only get played when I have to play them (much of the material I do for one band i'm in is pretty exclusively electric). 

GAS wise, it's now acoustic all the way for me. I'd still love a decent 12, an OM or two, spruce or cedar topped hog, something in koa/walnut/blackwood, an 00 / 000, an archtop (found an AMAZING Eastman jazzer that beats even the D'Angelico's I've played at 1/3 of the price) ... Top of the list though is the Fox Ergo.... (dream on!). I don't think I even want to play one for fear of ruining my perception of my existing collection and the worry of what it could do to my bank balance.

My electric gas has been pretty much sated by the Parker NiteFly (with the Roland VG-8 modelling it can do approximate pretty much any guitar) and the Gibson ES-137 Custom (varitone switch can make it sound like a big jazzer, a Les Paul, a 335 or a tele). Still, I wouldn't say no to a top of the range Parker Fly, a thinline Tele, a top notch strat...

I wouldn't say electrics have no soul, but I think I know what your getting at. There's something nice and organic about the self contained unit of an acoustic. And, especially with the mass manufactured ones, they tend to feel a bit blank, perhaps a tad characterless. It's nice knowing that a greater degree of human skill (and hopefully love and care!) goes into building a decent acoustic (contenious perhaps?), and it thing you can somehow feel that in the end product. But this could all be bias in my head from knowing something of how their made.

If you want to feel an electric, I guess you just gotta turn it up more!

D


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: jwhitcomb3 on March 02, 2006, 12:32:44 PM
I'm an acoustic guitar snob, but not the same type you are!  ^_^

I love both electric and acoustic guitars. I have several USA Hamer electrics that just kill. I'd played other brands for 25 years and discovered USA Hamers and that was that.

As far as acoustics go, I love 'em as long as they don't have any steenkin' wires on 'em. When I want to play electric, I'll pick up an electric. When I play an acoustic, I want wood. All wood (frets, nut/saddle, strings, tuners excepted). I don't even like plastic binding. And I certainly don't want a piezo within shouting distance...man, I hate the sound of a piezo pickup! Like fingernails on a blackboard to me. If I need the guitar louder I'll pop a mic in front of it.

So you see, there are acoustic guitar snobs, and acoustic guitar snobs!

-Jonathan
http://www.e-misery.com


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: ducktrapper on March 02, 2006, 01:38:33 PM
As far as I'm concerned you're on an island all by your lonesome but I'm sure some misguided souls would like to join you there.  I have six or seven electric guitars including a Larrivée and I'm playing them! One must have a tube amp as well though.   :wacko:  :mellow: :ph34r:


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Denis on March 02, 2006, 01:48:02 PM
I think that I'm having a tough enough time trying to afford the acoustics I have that if I as much into electrics, I would be destitute for sure.  I love old Teles and old tube amps.  Nothing else.  Why mess with perfection.  They sound good dirty or clean.  You can rock out or get that awesome chicken pickin' tone like Danny Gatton had.  That kicks a$$!!!

Back when I was in my late teens/early 20's I worked in a music store and it was the late 80's early 90's so the hair bands were in full regalia.  I used to watch some of these guys and they could play with lightening speed and agility and I thought it was all good but they had so much gear.  I couldn't understand why you would need the compressor, the three different distortion pedals, phaser, flanger, chorus, aural exciters...etc  Then the Roland GP-8 came out.  It was like 8 Boss pedals in one rackmount unit.  Then there were cables, Floyd Rose tremolos...etc so much stuff.  Even now, I will buy an issue of Guitar Player every so often and I have no idea what half the stuff is for??? 

I think I decided back in those early days, that acoustic would be easier in so many ways.  Hard to bring the Les Paul and Marshall stack to the beach to play for the ladies.  "Ugh, where do I plug in?"

That being said, I would love an old beat up Tele and a Fender Twin!  Go to 11!!!! 


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Fergy07 on March 02, 2006, 01:56:47 PM
I guess I'm on the edge of becoming one. I gave up on my electrics a few years ago and converted them into really nice acounstics which actually get played. My electrics gathered dust unless my friends and I would get together for jam.

There is something very etheral about being about to pick up a guitar and just have music jump out of it with the first strum.

However, my eyes keep roving to some of the Gretsch hollow bodies with the bigsby bar. Someday. (but then I'd proably have to buy a new amp, and the pendulam might swing back in the other direction)

Andy


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Barefoot Rob on March 02, 2006, 02:30:16 PM
My preference is for acoustic guitars not plugged in.That said I also play electric guitar and acoustic electric.I consider myself a musician so whatever the tune calls for I use the right tool.


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: ducktrapper on March 02, 2006, 02:41:28 PM
Wel there you go. Exactly. Well put Rob. 


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Barefoot Rob on March 02, 2006, 02:56:27 PM
Thankyou Kind sir. :GRN>






Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Tycho on March 02, 2006, 03:30:35 PM
Quote
GAS wise, it's now acoustic all the way for me. I'd still love a decent 12, an OM or two, spruce or cedar topped hog, something in koa/walnut/blackwood, an 00 / 000, an archtop (found an AMAZING Eastman jazzer that beats even the D'Angelico's I've played at 1/3 of the price) ...


+1 on the Eastmans!  I'd love one of those, but I don't think I'l ever play enough jazz to justify having one.


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: saffron_boots on March 02, 2006, 03:56:47 PM
I played electric 'til I was 18. Then I grew up...   :GRN>


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Barefoot Rob on March 02, 2006, 04:03:26 PM
JEZ!!!!When I turned 18 all I remember is throwing up... :GRN>


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Denis on March 02, 2006, 04:17:29 PM
JEZ!!!!When I turned 18 all I remember is throwing up... :GRN>

Woohoo, party on Rob!!!  I vaguely remember being 18 as well....it did happen though...I think?


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Barefoot Rob on March 02, 2006, 04:32:54 PM
OK Denis now your pushing it you want me actually remember more.....JEZ!!!!!!!!! :GRN>


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: LaminateBoy on March 02, 2006, 04:47:32 PM
I am on the verge of buying my first electric and a nice tube amp. I'm looking forward to the fun.


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: aboss on March 02, 2006, 09:44:36 PM
I wanna see someone pull out a les paul and a marshall 1/2 stack for a sing along around the campfire  :GRN> ...its acoustic all the way for me.


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: dberch on March 02, 2006, 09:58:56 PM
I hope I never get called a snob - but - I've never owned an electric and probably never will.  They just don't feel right to me.  To skinny or something.

My electric playing buddies get to talking about pedals and pedal boards and all that.  I just shug and tell 'em "I play acoustic.  Don't need no stinking pedals."  :GRN>  Guess I can't say that anymore as I'm using an AD-8 now.   :UND>


JEZ!!!!When I turned 18 all I remember is throwing up... :GRN>
Rob you crack me up.   :GRN>


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Tycho on March 02, 2006, 10:29:39 PM
I wanna see someone pull out a les paul and a marshall 1/2 stack for a sing along around the campfire  :GRN> ...its acoustic all the way for me.

My Les Paul arrives next week.  Just tell me where the campfire is and I'm there!


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Peter Cree on March 02, 2006, 10:35:07 PM
I'm an acoustic slob.


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: flathead on March 03, 2006, 01:42:23 AM
I'm and acoustic...... NUT!!!!


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Fergy07 on March 03, 2006, 01:52:41 PM
Wel there you go. Exactly. Well put Rob. 

I'm not so certain I agree...It might be that Unclrob is just in transition, and is still at the halfway point. We (snobs) should help him along by encouraging him in his quest for the correct mind set.

Andy


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Barefoot Rob on March 03, 2006, 02:03:06 PM
HELP MEEEEE!!!!!!!!!I can't do it on my own.........PLEASE HELP MEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!






 :GRN>


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: HangFire on March 03, 2006, 02:37:33 PM
I'm an acoustic slob.

LOL ^_^


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: dberch on March 03, 2006, 03:43:45 PM
HELP MEEEEE!!!!!!!!!I can't do it on my own.........PLEASE HELP MEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
Rob, take two acoustics and call us in the morning.  :GRN>


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Fergy07 on March 03, 2006, 04:16:53 PM
wait a minute, I thought he was surrounded by acoustics all day...just walk out into the showroom and embibe.

Andy


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Barefoot Rob on March 03, 2006, 04:20:50 PM
David....LOL

Andy...yes I am surrounded by acoustic all day but I don't make that much money to own them all......Donation welcomed. :GRN>


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: oneeyedjack on March 03, 2006, 06:19:50 PM
Keith Richards has been quoted  as saying, "If you don't play acoustic, you don't play guitar" .


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Fergy07 on March 03, 2006, 06:57:59 PM
Checks in the mail, that's Rob with a U right?

Andy


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: jwhitcomb3 on March 03, 2006, 07:12:07 PM
To me acoustic and electric guitar are almost different instruments. I play them both, but my whole approach to playing each is different.

The idea of either the electric or acoustic camp looking down their noses at the other seems absurd to me.

-Jonathan

http://www.e-misery.com


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: allengeetarr on March 04, 2006, 06:52:42 PM
To me acoustic and electric guitar are almost different instruments. I play them both, but my whole approach to playing each is different.

The idea of either the electric or acoustic camp looking down their noses at the other seems absurd to me.

-Jonathan

http://www.e-misery.com

Jonathan- not looking down my nose at anyone. I love to listen to many players that are electric based- such as Johnny A or the late Junior Kimbrough. A nice 'burst Strat is one the most beatiful things to me- as is a blonde Tele.

I just realized-after spending too much money and wasting too much time- that playing out of a speaker just was not for me.






Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: roknroll on March 04, 2006, 09:42:42 PM
What if you were stuck on a deserted island with a Larrivee L-03 and a sweet electric?  You would probably end up using the electric guitar as firewood.  If the lights go dim, the larrivee will win,when the power goes out, the electric guitar will no longer shout :SHK>


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Calvin on March 05, 2006, 09:15:26 AM
As long as you are making MUSIC, then you should use whatever floats your boat.

I wanna see some acoustic players tell Jimmy Hendrix that he isn't really playing a guitar.


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: allengeetarr on March 06, 2006, 01:26:56 AM
I wanna see some acoustic players tell Jimmy Hendrix that he isn't really playing a guitar.


That might be a little tough.... :GRN>


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: ducktrapper on March 06, 2006, 02:46:36 PM
Keith Richards has been quoted  as saying, "If you don't play acoustic, you don't play guitar" .

As he fires up his tele and starts me up! ;)
If you don't play both you're not as useful to a musical project as someone who does. I'll tell you that.


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: ronmac on March 06, 2006, 03:02:16 PM
As he fires up his tele and starts me up! ;)
If you don't play both you're not as useful to a musical project as someone who does. I'll tell you that.

A lot of truth to this!


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: DaveyO on March 06, 2006, 03:45:45 PM
i kind of am in fact, i have a fender tele only to play quitely when my family says :"your guitar is too loud"I can play and no one gets bugged  by the electric.But i have to say it is a nice change once i  a while.But really i love the acoustic guitar way more.Dave


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: fitness1 on March 06, 2006, 04:17:22 PM
 :rolleyes:


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: djsonovox on March 06, 2006, 09:36:23 PM
The example and paragon of the beauty of songs with BOTH acoustic and electric (omitting Led Zep for a moment) has got to be The Pentangle. When Jansch and Renbourn dub in a  mellow, fuzzed out electric over their fingerpicked textures, I am in heaven. LORD FRANKLIN being one example. Anthony Phillips was the first lead player in Genesis, back when they were emerging from  boy's schools. His solo album of virtually home-made compositions, PRIVATE PARTS AND PIECES, is unique. Get it and dig it. Lots of furious distorted Strat and luscious, chiming acoustic 12 and 6. Hey, the Byrds.

Surprising to me is the really crappy tone of the acoustic guitars n Jefferson Airplane's COMING BACK TO ME. A great song, great playing and the guitar sounds hollow and flat, like the strings are dead or someone stuffed paper towels down the sound hole!!

You may guess that I like both kilowatt and bare wood. That is correct! It's nice to be able to Cook with both gas and electricity.
The crisp and rich resonance of the wood and wire and the easy fluency of the amplified solid-body guitar are wonderful to choose from. Although I play acoustic moslty these days...and often plug in to an acoustic guitar amp for more sound.

Doug Jones


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Barefoot Rob on March 06, 2006, 09:55:16 PM
And here I thought I was the only one to know and enjoy The Pentangle.


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Tycho on March 06, 2006, 10:25:03 PM
I'm a big fan of Jansch and Renbourn, but I don't really know their Pentangle work.  I think I have one Pentang;e CD.


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: jwsamuel on March 08, 2006, 08:19:08 PM
Keith Richards has been quoted  as saying, "If you don't play acoustic, you don't play guitar" .

I saw John Hiatt in concert in August. His comment, as he strapped on his Telecaster was:

"The electric guitar is the fountain of youth."

He's right. Playing an electric is just fun and it makes you feel 20 again.

Jim


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: Fergy07 on March 08, 2006, 08:24:53 PM
I saw John Hiatt in concert in August. His comment, as he strapped on his Telecaster was:

"The electric guitar is the fountain of youth."

He's right. Playing an electric is just fun and it makes you feel 20 again.

Jim

I saw him also about then...he may have mentioned that when he put on the Tele, but he mostl;y played a Gibson J200 or some such.

Andy


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: bhika on March 08, 2006, 08:26:57 PM
I Saw John Hiatt about 2 years ago and he was playing a Larrivee L-09  :GRN>


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: jwsamuel on March 08, 2006, 08:47:42 PM
I saw Hiatt twice in 2005. The first time was with Lovett, Ely and Clark and he played a sunburst Gibson the whole time.

The second time was with NMAS and he played the Gibson for about 2/3 of the show and a Telecaster for one third.

Jim


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: pickstrings on March 19, 2006, 02:56:29 AM
This will sum it for me ,when I play electric the guys come around when I play acoustic the woman come around,needless to say I  don't play electric anymore :mellow:


In all serious I played electric for many years but once I started playing acoustic there was no comparsion.Playing acoustic to me is alot more fulfilling.


Title: Re: Anyone here an acoustic guitar snob?
Post by: drathbun on March 19, 2006, 05:27:18 PM
I don't understand the this OR that mentality. I'm interested in playing anything with strings... acoustic, electric, bass, mandolin, lapsteel.... what else you got??

Of course, that being said, I still reach for my L05 most often.