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Be patient and tough. Someday this pain will be useful to you.
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Quote from: Strings4Him on July 05, 2025, 11:53:54 AMHe is no fool, who gives up what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose.

RIP Jim Elliot and the others.   They lived that quote...
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"Education is what you get when you read the fine print. Experience is what you get when you don't." Pete Seeger

"Farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil and you're standing 1,000 miles from the cornfield." Dwight D. Eisenhower to a group of farmers in Peoria, IL in 1956.

"Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way."
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Quote from: teh on July 07, 2025, 08:58:01 PM"Education is what you get when you read the fine print. Experience is what you get when you don't." Pete Seeger
"Experience keeps a dear school, and fools with learn in no other."
Ben Franklin

On the subject of education, "Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything one learned in school."
Variations on that have been attributed to Einstein.

Similiar to a quote attributed to Mark Twain: I never let my education get in the way of my learning. Not sure if he really said that?
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"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion"
-Sir Francis Bacon
I've always felt very strongly about that, though I'd never heard that quote until I was in my 40's.

Quote from: B0WIE on July 12, 2025, 08:04:37 PM"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion"
-Sir Francis Bacon
I've always felt very strongly about that, though I'd never heard that quote until I was in my 40's.
For some reason, this reminded me of the old saying: "No joy without annoy." 

The following is a powerful quote from John Steinbeck's great novel, The Grapes of Wrath.  It's also a wonderful example of why I enjoy reading older books by author's from another time.  You really don't hear men talk like this anymore. 

"Men stood by their fences and looked at the ruined corn, drying fast now, only a little green showing through the film of dust. The men were silent and they did not move often. And the women came out of the houses to stand beside their men—to feel whether this time the men would break. The women studied the men's faces secretly, for the corn could go, as long as something else remained. The children stood near by, drawing figures in the dust with bare toes, and the children sent exploring senses out to see whether men and women would break. The children peeked at the faces of the men and women, and then drew careful lines in the dust with their toes. Horses came to the watering troughs and nuzzled the water to clear the surface dust. After a while the faces of the watching men lost their bemused perplexity and became hard and angry and resistant. Then the women knew that they were safe and that there was no break. Then they asked, What'll we do? And the men replied, I don't know. But it was all right. The women knew it was all right, and the watching children knew it was all right. Women and children knew deep in themselves that no misfortune was too great to bear if their men were whole."

"Pain is a good thing." KMP

"A dollar earned gives it value."

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Pain is a good thing

Quote from: broKen on August 16, 2025, 08:07:24 PM"Pain is a good thing." KMP

"A dollar earned gives it value."


I agree that we seem to learn more from pain than we do from the good times.  It's not a pleasant truth but the world seems to be wired up this way.  My old dad used to say, "To suffer will make you tougher."

Quote from: Silence Dogood on August 17, 2025, 08:48:52 AMI agree that we seem to learn more from pain than we do from the good times.  It's not a pleasant truth but the world seems to be wired up this way.  My old dad used to say, "To suffer will make you tougher."

It's not a philosophical observation. Years ago Dr. Paul Brandt gave his life and service to people who suffer from leprosy. He and Philip Yancey teamed up to write a book about his knowledge and experience. Fearfully and Wonderfully Made is
Quote from: Silence Dogood on August 17, 2025, 08:48:52 AMI agree that we seem to learn more from pain than we do from the good times.  It's not a pleasant truth but the world seems to be wired up this way.  My old dad used to say, "To suffer will make you tougher."

It's not a philosophical observation. Years ago Dr. Paul Brandt gave his life and service to people suffering from leprosy. He and Philip Yancy wrote a book entitled Fearfully and Wonderfully Made. Check it out, I think you will like it.
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Quote from: broKen on August 17, 2025, 12:30:30 PMIt's not a philosophical observation. Years ago Dr. Paul Brandt gave his life and service to people who suffer from leprosy. He and Philip Yancey teamed up to write a book about his knowledge and experience. Fearfully and Wonderfully Made is
It's not a philosophical observation. Years ago Dr. Paul Brandt gave his life and service to people suffering from leprosy. He and Philip Yancy wrote a book entitled Fearfully and Wonderfully Made. Check it out, I think you will like it.
I read a couple of Yancey's books years ago when I was going through phase of reading books like that.  He seems like a solid guy. 

I'm no fan of Yancy,,,the content of the book is very compelling though.
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Quote from: broKen on August 17, 2025, 03:28:25 PMI'm no fan of Yancy,,,the content of the book is very compelling though.
Yeah, I don't really read books like that anymore.  During one of my "searching" phases of life several books like that landed on my shelf. 

"That's what happens when you study men: you find mare's nests. I happen to believe that you can't study men; you can only get to know them, which is quite a different thing."

from That Hideous Strength, C.S. Lewis

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