Bruce Cockburn and the original Larrivee cutaway

Started by Mikeymac, December 14, 2011, 05:51:32 PM

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Found this YouTube clip while 'surfing' this afternoon...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVqHm1TQh0I&feature=related

I believe Bruce was the owner of the first Larrivee cutaway - the shape that is now the C-09 model (florentine cutaway).

Not the best video, but it's historical in that it shows how forward thinking Jean Larrivee was back then - I don't believe too many folks were making flat-top cutaway acoustics then.

(The C-09 will be my next Larrivee acoustic, so I'm partial to this topic...)

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2002 L-05 Left-handed
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Quote from: Mikeymac on December 14, 2011, 05:51:32 PM

(The C-09 will be my next Larrivee acoustic, so I'm partial to this topic...)



You will not be disappointed :blush:

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 :nice guitar:

Very nice, indeed!!!

I plan to order mine with the traditional rosette and either rosewood or koa body binding...going for that 30 year old look...
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Notice, too, that Bruce now plays strictly Manzers. Same as Pat Metheny. And where did Linda develop her building chops? Under JCL's tutelage of course.
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Quote from: Mikeymac on December 14, 2011, 05:51:32 PM
Not the best video, but it's historical in that it shows how forward thinking Jean Larrivee was back then.....

Gibson made a Florentine style cutaway, flattop, acoustic guitar  25 years prior to the Cockburn cutaway....



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I think that it is more of a matter of Larrivée reviving an interest in the cutaway acoustic... When Hank Williams declared that there was no money to be made beyond the third fret, he may have killed the production of the venerable cutaway steelstring? :ohmy:
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Quote from: GA-ME on December 16, 2011, 12:14:38 PM
Gibson made a Florentine style cutaway, flattop, acoustic guitar  25 years prior to the Cockburn cutaway....



Ahh the CF 100  -  Beauties!!!!!!!!!!!! I think Jaskson BROWNE regularly played one back in the day
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Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on December 16, 2011, 01:38:06 PM
Ahh the CF 100  -  Beauties!!!!!!!!!!!! I think Jaskson BROWNE regularly played one back in the day

Well, personally, I find the Larrivee much more aesthetically pleasing than that Gibson design...
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Quote from: Mikeymac on December 17, 2011, 12:11:22 PM
Well, personally, I find the Larrivee much more aesthetically pleasing than that Gibson design...
I'd take a pre-war Gibson any day. Even if you just sold it you could buy 20 to 30 other guitars.

Quote from: Mikeymac on December 17, 2011, 12:11:22 PM
Well, personally, I find the Larrivee much more aesthetically pleasing than that Gibson design...

Yeah, I like the Larrivee look better as well. But, the point was the Cockburn guitar in 1975 wasn't a forward thinking design anymore than the Traditional Series or the new Bakersfield are forward thinking...

Quote from: dependan on December 17, 2011, 02:54:48 PM
 I'd take a pre-war Gibson any day. Even if you just sold it you could buy 20 to 30 other guitars.

Danny, the CF 100 was built only in the 50's, I believe. They are not really super valuable or anything.

Quote from: GA-ME on December 18, 2011, 09:58:13 AM
Yeah, I like the Larrivee look better as well. But, the point was the Cockburn guitar in 1975 wasn't a forward thinking design anymore than the Traditional Series or the new Bakersfield are forward thinking...

Danny, the CF 100 was built only in the 50's, I believe. They are not really super valuable or anything.
Yea, I know , but a Gibson from the 50's is worth a lot as well, I could look it up, but don't care to now, though some models from the 50's are worth $50,000.00 now.

In a store i played a wonderful 1945 Southern Jumbo yesterday, very very clean for a 67 year old guitar... recent neck set, saddle and nut, great setup, great woody sound, asking price was $6,995...

I'm sure there's a few 50's Gibby acoustic's that can command 50K, but not many... can't think of a 50's Martin that can approach 50K unless it's had a owner that is famous.. like Elvis's  or Andy Grifith's D18's...

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  Apologies to the OP, but I guess I'll finish the $ value up. There are some Gibbys made in recent times worth over 12,000 now.

But I'll site one model from the pre-war era and from 1945-1954 to get an idea.  J-200 1938-1942 $50K to $60K.     1945-1954 $10K+ to $15K+

These are not owned by Elvis or anyone else, those would be worth more. There are other models worth as much.

                  So I was wrong on the 50's value in general, but I do remember seeing a 50's Gibby somewhere for sale in the $50K range. Maybe it was Elderly Music.

                        We now return you to your regularly scheduled "programing". :tongue:

Ya know whether it's $7000 or $50,000 Danny's point is well taken. And to me the "worth" really makes me laugh

I mean friends c'mon $7000 plus for a 50 year old guitar when you can buy a new one today sub $5000 ( or a slightly used for sub $2500 and likely to sound just as good ( my money is on better) and have a lifetime of playing still in it.

Now if you are collecting and that's your thing ( bit of a Larrivee collector myself) then that's IMO the sole reason for driving these prices skyward. I could be wrong BUT that's how I see it.

Whether the CF100 influenced JCL's C Model we should ask him as I find it extremely interesting. I certainly luv the results as The Larrivee C is my favourite acoustic design of any Larrivee or other  maker's models including the CF100
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  I believe the CF model was introduced in 1949 or 50, so surely JCL would have known about it. He also went to Gibson and Martin to see how they built guitars. You may remember that from the "Acoustic Guitar" article about JCL. (I think that's where I read it) At any rate it was only Gibson and Martin in North America making high quality, mass produced acoustics back then. Harmony made more than the rest put together, but of course no one puts them in the same category.

   I really like the Larrivee cut a way's. My favorite is the LSV-11. I guess the sharp end of the C models "frightens" me a little. ie. Afraid it could be broken easily. But I never heard anything about that being a problem.

Quote from: dependan on December 18, 2011, 12:18:12 PM
 I guess the sharp end of the C models "frightens" me a little.

Danny - you would be wise to stay away from sharp things for a while  :smile:

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Quote from: JOYCEfromNS on December 18, 2011, 12:24:59 PM
Danny - you would be wise to stay away from sharp things for a while  :smile:

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You got that right, I still try and play though. I can get one song out and it tears open. My son let me try his classical (the one I gave him) But it didn't seem to make a lot of difference, my FIV is setup with DR Rare lights anyway.
    I'll be glad when this heals enough to get back into playing daily.

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