00-50 or a 000-50?

Started by larsonjeffp, August 31, 2010, 03:00:25 PM

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I was trying to decide if I wanted to get a 00-50 or a 000-50. I have a P-05 now that I really like, but thought I'd search out another Larrivee to add to it. I know the sizes are not huge difference between the 2, but there are in the prices. I really like the slotted headstock on the 000-50s. I am in Houston, TX and no one here has any of these in stock, in fact only one place here sells Larrivee's here :angry: Can anyone give there oppinion on this? Thanks
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The 000-50 is a regular production model, the 00-50 is not and is hard to find.

The 000 gets a lot of love.
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And I guess the one that I'm sorta looking at is a 00-03, not a 00-05. I really love my P-05, but wanna get something that is similar in shape, but a different size. I have a Martin DM, but it just feels too big to sit around with. I thought about a P-05MT for the mahogany top. Too bad I cant just get them all right now
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National Delphi
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I've got a 00-50 and an 000-50.  They both have a lot more presence than a parlor and the 000-50 is obviously louder.  The 00-50 is harder to find but they do pop up occasionally.  The 00-03 sounds similar to a 00-50.

Which to buy? 

The 000-50 has the bling, slotted headstock and vintage appointments would be louder than an 00-03 and of course more costly.

The 00-03 more sound than your parlor but reserved in looks department; less expensive and slightly more couchable than 000-50.

There have been custom run Larrivee 00s with the bling (LA Guitars), again costly.

You might want to pick up a custom 00 and sell your parlor. 

Keep your eye out for an FIV 00-03MT if you can.   :nice guitar:

Quote from: gtrplayer on August 31, 2010, 05:28:34 PM
You might want to pick up a custom 00 and sell your parlor. 

Sacrilege!   :bgrin:

Whenever my hands are a bit fatigued or I want to try out a tricky stretch, I go to my short-scale Parlor.     Everybody needs one.

As far as adding a 00 or 000 to your collection, the obvious answer is: both!
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Uke: Kala KA-ASKS with Larrivee Flamed Koa
Chops: fingerstyle noob

Doesn't the 000-50 have a wider spacing for the strings (1 and 7/8 ?), and isn't it 12 frets to the body so wouldn't the tone be differnt in character as well as volume, or am I of the mark with the specs?  If I amincorrect it certainly wouldn't be the first time.  You, having both the 00-50 and the 000-50, would be the one to verify this.

         DAVE





Quote from: gtrplayer on August 31, 2010, 05:28:34 PM
I've got a 00-50 and an 000-50.  They both have a lot more presence than a parlor and the 000-50 is obviously louder.  The 00-50 is harder to find but they do pop up occasionally.  The 00-03 sounds similar to a 00-50.

Which to buy? 

The 000-50 has the bling, slotted headstock and vintage appointments would be louder than an 00-03 and of course more costly.

The 00-03 more sound than your parlor but reserved in looks department; less expensive and slightly more couchable than 000-50.

There have been custom run Larrivee 00s with the bling (LA Guitars), again costly.

You might want to pick up a custom 00 and sell your parlor. 
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Quote from: ncognito on August 31, 2010, 09:16:43 PM
Doesn't the 000-50 have a wider spacing for the strings (1 and 7/8 ?), and isn't it 12 frets to the body so wouldn't the tone be differnt in character as well as volume, or am I of the mark with the specs?  If I amincorrect it certainly wouldn't be the first time.  You, having both the 00-50 and the 000-50, would be the one to verify this.

        DAVE


The 000-50 nut width is 1 13/16".  The 00-50 is 1 3/4".  That 1/16" can make a slight difference to some.
I believe the 00-03 and parlor have an 1 3/4" nut width.

They're both 12 fret guitars and sound pretty close though the 000-50 has a little more of everything including volume.

gtrplayer

Well I dont think I will be getting rid of my Parlor, I like it too much. Thats how really I found out about Larrivees. I have an old Stella that was my grandfathers, and I really liked the size of it, just wasnt very playable. So I found the Art& Lutherie Ami parlors, not bad, but knew someone had to make better ones. So I came across Larrivee.

I would LOVE to get a Forum lV, but as everyone knows, they're hard to find, and can imagine how much I'd end up paying for one. I dont usually get lucky like that, except once I found a Dobro steel body guitar next to someones trashcans waiting to be picked up by the trash guys.

The 000-50 I think might be a little too much at this moment in time. So I think I've narrowed it down to a 00-03 and a P-03MT. Have been wanting an all hog guitar. And I think I sorta want a satin one this time. Any thoughts on this? Wife isnt intrested in helping me decide
Larrivee OO-03MT
National Delphi
Ashbury AT-24 Tenor

If it were me, I would go keep the parlor you love and go for a different size guitar (and ( have as you can see in the sig).  000s are my personal favorite, but I would love to have a 00.  In fact I would go for one of the 3 that are for sale right here on the forum.  They all look great and I have met and played a little with 2 of the sellers.  But I really like to have different size guitars - thus the parlor, the 000, and the slope D + the LG1.  Gives me a guitar to play large and small depending on the mood and who I might get to play with.  Usually have two out to play at a time to compare and get to know them.

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I can only give a very enthusiastic  :thumbsup  to the OOO-50, especially in TSB. 

Quote from: larsonjeffp on August 31, 2010, 10:41:59 PM
The 000-50 I think might be a little too much at this moment in time. So I think I've narrowed it down to a 00-03 and a P-03MT. Have been wanting an all hog guitar. And I think I sorta want a satin one this time. Any thoughts on this? Wife isnt intrested in helping me decide

I don't think you'll see that much difference between a P-05 and a P-03MT.  And at the risk of incurring a whole lot of wrath from Larry hog lovers, I believe the P-03MT might come across as a little subdued soundwise compared to the P-05.  So redundancy could become an issue.

With an 000-50 you would see quite a difference compared to your parlor.  But seeing that is slightly beyond your financial grasp at present and noting your wife's apathy, I would opt for the 00-03.  The 00-03 would give you certainly more presence than your parlor.  

A Forum IV would be nice and one will eventually come up for sale but if you've never had an all hog before you should try before you buy.

Good luck with your decision,

gtrplayer

A good compromise would be the F-III(LS-03) currently offered on eBay.  It's very interesting to me how close the dimensions of the LS-03 are to the 000.  Throw in the italian spruce top, and you have one interesting instrument.

Chas.

Good grief - I just checked eBay and the same dealer is offering both a F-III and a F-IV!  What's going on here??  Somebody better jump!

Chas.


Quote from: Chasjax on September 01, 2010, 10:50:35 AM
A good compromise would be the F-III(LS-03) currently offered on eBay.  It's very interesting to me how close the dimensions of the LS-03 are to the 000.  Throw in the italian spruce top, and you have one interesting instrument.

Chas.
Yup

I recently purchased a OO-03R and am having some regret. I should have gone with the larger OOO. I think it would depend on your style of playing. If you're a strummer, get the OOO. If you fingerpick, save a little money and get the OO.
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You can't go wrong with either one.  True though, the 000 might be a bit better for strumming, but in general, they are both amazing guitars.  I know my 00-50 was outstanding but when I saw the specs for the FIII, I was hooked.  Then, the FIV was announced...Wow, Larrivee is making so many nnice smaller guitars now...

Good luck with you quest.  Any of them, 000-50, 00-50, 00-03, 00-03MT, 00-03R, short scale, long scale...etc are worth the $.

Quote from: Denis on September 03, 2010, 08:03:01 AM
You can't go wrong with either one.  True though, the 000 might be a bit better for strumming, but in general, they are both amazing guitars.  I know my 00-50 was outstanding but when I saw the specs for the FIII, I was hooked.  Then, the FIV was announced...Wow, Larrivee is making so many nnice smaller guitars now...

Good luck with you quest.  Any of them, 000-50, 00-50, 00-03, 00-03MT, 00-03R, short scale, long scale...etc are worth the $.
Yup, Larrivee has made more nice small bodies than anyone here lately. Especially when you add in the F-III LS sized 12 frets and the 14 fret LS models that were made. (Of course we had a little to do with that :blush:) 

well i want to thank everyone who replied to try and help me with my descision. I ended up getting a Forum IV  :bgrin: Now I just have to wait on it to arrive  :doh Again, thanks for all the help.
Larrivee OO-03MT
National Delphi
Ashbury AT-24 Tenor

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