EUREKA !!!! - finally found it ( I hope )

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Quotespacing at the bridge, not the nut

maybe the strings can be made wider by modifying the saddle -
I found this comment on a classical guitar forum, I guess it would work for steel string too

QuoteI have cut notches in the saddles of my guitars many times to change string spacing, and the technique works perfectly. There is so much down-bearing pressure from the string over the top of the saddle that it takes only a very shallow notch -- more of a scratch than a gully, really -- to securely hold the string in its new position. Therefore, it's possible to use your existing saddle without altering the action if you cut the notch only on the aft edge of the saddle , where the string first passes over it as it leaves the tieblock, and leave the forward edge alone, preserving its current height. If there is already compensation cut into your current saddle, it also will be preserved by notching only the aft edge.
PLAY SONG , LIVE LONG !

Larrivee OOO-60 - Lady Rose
Pavan TP-30 classical - nylon
Takamine 132s classical -nylon
former Larrivees  L-03R  SD-50

ok. the guitar arrived. I decided to return it.
If you want my reasons ....PM  me...   - Larry
PLAY SONG , LIVE LONG !

Larrivee OOO-60 - Lady Rose
Pavan TP-30 classical - nylon
Takamine 132s classical -nylon
former Larrivees  L-03R  SD-50

Your playing is coming along nicely. Hope you find a guitar to settle in with so you can get to really know it and have a relationship.
10-1614 more than a number, it's body and soul.

Quote from: lw216316 on March 13, 2010, 09:24:50 PM
ok. the guitar arrived. I decided to return it.
If you want my reasons ....PM  me...   - Larry

I sent you a PM... Why?
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Larrivee L-03 w/Gotoh 381 tuners (African Mahogany/Sitka)
Collings OM2Hc (EIR/Sitka)
Schenk Ophirio (Sapele/Cedar)
Bourgeois 00 Custom (Mahogany/It. Spruce)

There's a nice SD-50 for sell at a good price! Sorry couldn't resist. Cedar wasn't loud enough? You always give reviews, what's up?
10-1614 more than a number, it's body and soul.

since several people are asking WHY I decided to return the Cort L900P
I'll go ahead and post my reasons so it may be a help to prospective buyers


I returned the Cort L900P to the dealer

- because of 2 things I learned about the L900P I did not know
- and 2 things it caused me to learn about my Recording King ROS-627

First let me say this about the Cort -
The " C " neck profile - was wonderful - it fit my hand like a glove.
I see why it won the ' Editor's Choice Award ' by Guitar Player magazine -
it is that good -
excellent construction, very beautiful guitar - lovely abalone rosette,
beautiful head stock,
and the price of $469 (no case) is unbelievable.

I was very tempted to keep it for those reasons.

The number one thing that caused me to return it was the same
thing that caused me to sell my Huss & Dalton OO-SP - TONE -
I was not satisfied with the TONE.

There is nothing wrong with the tone. Its just not the TONE for me.
The cedar top may have something to do with it, or the laminated rosewood sides -
I don't know -

The tone reminds me more of mahogany than rosewood.
It did not have the deep, rich, lush, dark, warm, woody sound of my Recording King rosewood.
The size and tone actually reminded me of a Martin OOO-15 all mahogany slot head I once owned for one day -   I returned it to the dealer after I tried singing with it and it did not match with my voice at all.

I had played a cedar top / mahogany back & sides guitar before and knew what that sounded like....but I had never played a cedar top with a rosewood back and sides.
(except the Olson and that is in a $15,000 world by itself)
I was honest with the dealer about that before I ordered it and told the dealer there was a chance I might not like the tone. He accepted that. I'm sure he will have no problem selling the guitar out of his shop.

The 2nd reason I was not satisfied with the L900P was that I discovered that the fretboard is FLAT - like a classical - it does not have a radius curve -
and I have come to appreciate a curved fretboard like my Recording King has.
It especially makes it easier to play barre chords on steel string if the fretboard is curved.
The specs did not mention that nor did the reviews I read.

Along with that, the nut width was listed as being 1.77  -
I was hoping that would be enough wider than the 1 3/4  guitars I've tried that I would be happy with it.  But it felt a little uncomfortable to me.
When I measured it I got 1 3/4. I was hoping it would be wider and closer to 1 13/16 - like I prefer

The specs on my Recording King say 1 13/16 and that is what I thought it was.
But I decided to measure it and compare it to the Cort and that is when I discovered my Recording King is actually 1 7/8 !!!  -   perfect for me - I'm glad the RK is wider than the specs say.

Also, when I discovered the Cort had a flat fretboard I checked my Recording King and found that it was curved. I had not noticed that before.

One guy who posted was concerned that the string spacing at the bridge - 2 1/4 might be too narrow for finger style.... but I had no problem with that - it was 2 1/4 but felt ok.

I spent about 4 hours total playing time -
continually switching back and forth between the Cort and my Recording King and decided the Cort would not get much play time if I kept it.

I tried recording with the Cort and it records very nicely -
very articulate and clear, and projects well.
The Cort has good volume and sustain for its OO size.   14" lower bout, 4 inch depth

The scale on the Cort is a little shorter than the usual 25.5 standard size
I forget the exact number -  25.1 or 25.3  - something like that-
anyway it was enough I could tell the difference and liked it.

I really hated letting it go -
One odd thing about it to me - it comes standard with D-ad 80/20 bronze strings,

changing to less bright strings would probably have made a difference in tone -
but I doubt it would have been enough to cause me to reconsider -
the flat board and 1 3/4 nut would still have been issues with me.

For now , I have a greater appreciation for my Recording King
since I discovered it has a 1 7/8 nut and has a curved fretboard.

I would still rather have that wonderful " C ' profile neck instead of my customized
modified (smoothed down some) - modified-V.

And I would prefer a shorter scale than the standard 25.5 scale my Recording King has.

If Recording King gets their ' custom option ' available like they say they plan to-
then I will probably order one with a low profile type neck and a short scale.

- I hope this helps you decide if the Cort L900P is for you.

- Larry
PLAY SONG , LIVE LONG !

Larrivee OOO-60 - Lady Rose
Pavan TP-30 classical - nylon
Takamine 132s classical -nylon
former Larrivees  L-03R  SD-50

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