New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?

Started by mrrinse, April 25, 2006, 02:35:37 PM

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Hi,
My recent acquisition of a Taylor 510 (with Grover Rotomatic tuners, I think) has made me realise how much I don't get on with my Larrivee pings (especially given a lot of switching between tunings) on my L-05MT and LV-09.

I do really like the look of the Pings though, size / shape / ebonoid buttons (chrome finish, not nickel ... right?).

Can anyone recommend easy drop in replacement (i.e. no new holes - i'd like the option to go back to pings if necessary). I've heard good things about Gotoh 510s but gather there expensive (are we aloud to talk about prices of these as they're not new Larrivee guitars...?). The Grovers seem pretty sweet to me - especially since you can get locking Grovers and 18:1 Grovers ... so is there any reason why I should pay extra for the Gotohs?

Ideally I'd like to get (at some point) ebony / ebonoid buttons for them, similar in shae ot the Pings.

Shaller seem to have fallen out of favour with many these days. Are there any other options I'm overlooking.

Also, if anyone can recommend a cheap supplier. I am in the UK, but international purchases can work out cheaper.

Thanks,
Dan
Larrivees LV-09, L-05MT and P-03; Lowdens S-7 (1988) (FOR SALE), O-12 (2004)  and Baritone (2009); McIlroys A25c (2003) and A25c custom (2010); Sada Yairi Soloist (1965) - nylon string; Parker NiteFly with Roland GK-2a MIDI pickup; PBC superstrat and 5 string bass; AER Compact 60.

I really want a set of Gotoh 510's for my LV also, but $90 is a lot of coin for a set of tuners.  It just seems like a silly use of a hundred bucks.  I guess if you have the cash, go for it. 
2005 LV-03
2010 00-03MT Forum IV
2011 RS-04
2013 D-40
2016 UC-40 Koa
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Too true. It's not like the improvement affects tone or playability.

Seem to be around £50 a set in the UK for the 510s. Grover Rotomatics 18:1 c.£37; £52 for the locking Grovers.

That's basically £100 ($175) if I did both guitars. Ouch. That's 1/2 or 1/3 of a second hand parlour (which'd be much more fun!).

Hmm... Still, something I'd like to get round to one day (like many others!).

Dan
Larrivees LV-09, L-05MT and P-03; Lowdens S-7 (1988) (FOR SALE), O-12 (2004)  and Baritone (2009); McIlroys A25c (2003) and A25c custom (2010); Sada Yairi Soloist (1965) - nylon string; Parker NiteFly with Roland GK-2a MIDI pickup; PBC superstrat and 5 string bass; AER Compact 60.

Pricey but so cool looking. :SHK>
kdonovan

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Sweet. Do you have a "frontal" shot as well...
droool...

Dan
Larrivees LV-09, L-05MT and P-03; Lowdens S-7 (1988) (FOR SALE), O-12 (2004)  and Baritone (2009); McIlroys A25c (2003) and A25c custom (2010); Sada Yairi Soloist (1965) - nylon string; Parker NiteFly with Roland GK-2a MIDI pickup; PBC superstrat and 5 string bass; AER Compact 60.

Here you go
kdonovan

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v naughty!

thanks.
Larrivees LV-09, L-05MT and P-03; Lowdens S-7 (1988) (FOR SALE), O-12 (2004)  and Baritone (2009); McIlroys A25c (2003) and A25c custom (2010); Sada Yairi Soloist (1965) - nylon string; Parker NiteFly with Roland GK-2a MIDI pickup; PBC superstrat and 5 string bass; AER Compact 60.

Straight from the 60s:  Black is Beautiful.  Or in this case, perhaps an acquired taste.

E. Shoaf

I definitely think the 510's are worth it.  Oh, and there are tonal advantages, more precise tuning.  Definitely makes it easier to tune by ear in my experience. 

Brett

I've heard that the diameter of the hole already drilled in the Larrivee for the tuners is different than what is needed for Gotoh 510's and a sleeve must be put in. Does anyone know if this is true?

Joe

Quote from: danijoe on April 29, 2006, 07:00:50 AM
I've heard that the diameter of the hole already drilled in the Larrivee for the tuners is different than what is needed for Gotoh 510's and a sleeve must be put in. Does anyone know if this is true?

Joe


That's definitely not true...  the 510's are direct drop-ins.. probably easier to do than a bone saddle upgrade.


-dan
2005 Larrivée OM-03
2013 Larrivée P-03 Koa

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Thanks - that makes me feel better. I'm going with Gotoh's soon for my LSV-11E.

Joe

Quote from: jankymutt on April 25, 2006, 02:48:28 PM
I really want a set of Gotoh 510's for my LV also, but $90 is a lot of coin for a set of tuners.  It just seems like a silly use of a hundred bucks.  I guess if you have the cash, go for it. 

The Gotoh 510's are a great gift list item for say...Christmas.....birthdays.....

And of course, like Kdonovan says...they are beautiful!

Here is a thread I posted awhile back of a complete install of Gotoh 510's.  They come with the kidney bean tuner buttons, but I think if you swap those out with the Schaller-style buttons it'll keep that larrivee feel for you.

Install post:

http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=9747.0

Schaller-style button swap:




I know this picture makes the buttons looks HUGE...but it's just an illusion


Can't beat that!






Mcilroy A30C, 2005
Yamaha FG-512, 1978
Custom Built Orchestra Model

Previously Owned:
Larrivee L-10 Special Edition, 2002
Larrivee Classical, 1977
Larrivee LV-05E, 2005
Larrivee P-09
Larrivee OM-05 custom
Larrivee OM-03
Larrivee D-03R, 1997

Sweet looking guitar didy :SHK>

kdonovan
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