I really want a Larrivee Parlor. Why do I want this?

[BluesMan1]

   Ricky, you must have filled your need for your "traveler" already, as you were talking about a walnut version also. Don't know, you didn't respond. I'm just wondering also if my experience with the P-09 was a rare one, sounding as I described before. Just one word of advice: don't put paper or cardboard, as I hope you were joking. Using a denser material, like mylar, which is easy to cut for shimming & you should always have some around just for that, is the way to go. Did you end up getting the traveler you wanted? Or,as I mentioned, is this going to be a double-duty guitar, for home & going out? For finger style, I know that these sizes are great, but from my experience with flat picking, it just sounded thin & tinny. Does the walnut (or as fongie has,maple) really give it a better sound when strummed than I heard? Also, the mediums would make more sense for this size, bringing out more volume & probably subtleties not heard using lights.
   Later.
     Jeff

[rpm60912]

   Ricky, you must have filled your need for your "traveler" already, as you were talking about a walnut version also. Don't know, you didn't respond. I'm just wondering also if my experience with the P-09 was a rare one, sounding as I described before. Just one word of advice: don't put paper or cardboard, as I hope you were joking. Using a denser material, like mylar, which is easy to cut for shimming & you should always have some around just for that, is the way to go. Did you end up getting the traveler you wanted? Or,as I mentioned, is this going to be a double-duty guitar, for home & going out? For finger style, I know that these sizes are great, but from my experience with flat picking, it just sounded thin & tinny. Does the walnut (or as fongie has,maple) really give it a better sound when strummed than I heard? Also, the mediums would make more sense for this size, bringing out more volume & probably subtleties not heard using lights.
   Later.
     Jeff

As for a travel guitar - I now technically have 2 gits that meet that need: the Larri-Parlor Walnut "special edition" & Ami.
Both fit the Ami gig bag nicely for portability. I was not planning to trade the OM-40, but I was offered a deal I could not turn down. I have this beautiful git and starting money to finance the Go-Guitar Walnut Grande.

I'm still planning to go ahead with that Go-Git order which I hope to personally pick-up from Sam Radding in August, Lord willing.

The "real estate" in parlor guitars is not just there to make them good strummers - they will never sound anything like a OM or LS. If it was possible for a parlor to strum like a OM or LS - I can see myself willing to pay a small fortune for such a guitar. It is just physically not possible for a parlor to produce that strumming without sounding "boxy" "tinny" etc. Yet, I hope I'm not being naive in thinking, that parlors can develop their own "big voice / sound" in their own right.

They're excellent with bare finger strumming and using a pick, moderate controlled strumming at best.  It is meant for relaxed playing / strumming / fingerstyle - relaxed is the operative word --- not my usual insane ballistic strumming which my bigger guitars are able to handle.

I have learned to "adjust" my expectations of a parlor - no matter what wood it is.  I'm determined to play the snot out of this Walnut until it achieves that "opened up" condition.

That said - all of my guitars are still up for grabs - at the right price... except for my FG3 and another "traveller" which I'm hoping is either one of the following two: (1) Go-Git or (2) Larri-Walnut-Special-Ed Parlor.

Sorry, I didn't mean to not respond to your previous thread.


Queequeg & your advice taken.  I'll try to put medium EJ-16s first and see how it sounds; if buzzing still there, then I'll start asking about how to properly raise the action & truss rod adjustment possibly.

ricky

[Danny]

   ricky, ricky ricky.... BUY A MARTIN and be done with this quest for the right git.                                                                                                           (U know U want 2)

[rpm60912]

   ricky, ricky ricky.... BUY A MARTIN and be done with this quest for the right git.                                                                                                           (U know U want 2)

Dear #1,

Our quest for the right git is over!

Warmly,

#78

[Danny]

Dear #1,

Our quest for the right git is over!

Warmly,

#78

Dear, brother... I accept that from you.

[Bltprf502]

Ricky... PM sent. 

[rpm60912]

The "real estate" in parlor guitars is not just there to make them good strummers - they will never sound anything like a OM or LS. If it was possible for a parlor to strum like a OM or LS - I can see myself willing to pay a small fortune for such a guitar. It is just physically not possible for a parlor to produce that strumming without sounding "boxy" "tinny" etc. Yet, I hope I'm not being naive in thinking, that parlors can develop their own "big voice / sound" in their own right.

They're excellent with bare finger strumming and using a pick, moderate controlled strumming at best.  It is meant for relaxed playing / strumming / fingerstyle - relaxed is the operative word --- not my usual insane ballistic strumming which my bigger guitars are able to handle.

I have learned to "adjust" my expectations of a parlor - no matter what wood it is.  I'm determined to play the snot out of this Walnut until it achieves that "opened up" condition.

That said - all of my guitars are still up for grabs - at the right price... except for my FG3 and another "traveller" which I'm hoping is either one of the following two: (1) Go-Git or (2) Larri-Walnut-Special-Ed Parlor.

Jeff and friends at the Forum,

I have to eat my words. Rich "bltprf502" let me hear his Parlor Walnut over the phone today. I couldn't believe my ears!

So, I did a little experiment as Rich and I exchanged emails this afternoon. I installed the OO-09 saddle into my new-to-me Parlor Walnut Special Edition. I noticed that it was quite a bit higher and would raise the action - and so I did.

The rest as they say is history.

My new-to-me Parlor Walnut is now quite a strummer, very loud, gone is the "boxy, tinny" sound (I'll eat my words again),
no more boxy, no more tinny (never was tinny in the first place).

This now sounds like a bigger guitar that can hold its own against the bigger sized gits. Now, even if I push it to the max, that is, strum beyond my normal heavy strumming, it can take it --- it growls.

Yipeeeee !!!!!

I've got me a keeper and may very well be The travel git.

ricky


My new Parlor has become a "twin" of Rich's "bltprf502" parlor walnut.

[huladude456]

Well, I've enjoyed the heck out of this discussion thread and I may have even learned a few things.  What I think I learned is that what I really want is Forum III, not a parlor (at least not for now).  So I bought the last (or second to last) Forum III from Jim Holler!  I can't wait.  Now I really need to sell my Taylor 314.  I had lots of interest but no one came through on the AGF.  I'll post it on the for sale site here.  Thanks again to all you Larrivee afficianados!

[jeremy3220]

So, I did a little experiment as Rich and I exchanged emails this afternoon. I installed the OO-09 saddle into my new-to-me Parlor Walnut Special Edition. I noticed that it was quite a bit higher and would raise the action - and so I did.

Was it buzzing before, how did it play before you raised the saddle? How much saddle was sticking up above the bridge before you raised it?

[Bltprf502]

That was fun today Ricky... Looking forward to hearing the rest of this really cool story as it progreses.  Thats right... My Walnut parlor found his twin!

[rpm60912]

Was it buzzing before, how did it play before you raised the saddle? How much saddle was sticking up above the bridge before you raised it?

Yup, was it ever buzzing like crazy.  I finger strum and it buzzes.  I did not get actual measurement before the saddle switch.

By sight estimation, the bass side of the saddle sat really low, like less than 1/8" and now it's a good bit higher.

ricky

[jeremy3220]

Yup, was it ever buzzing like crazy.  I finger strum and it buzzes.  I did not get actual measurement before the saddle switch.

By sight estimation, the bass side of the saddle sat really low, like no more than 1/8" and now it's a good bit higher.

ricky

That's cool. I just wanted to make sure you weren't raising the action to an uncomfortable height to make it sound better(i.e. an incorrect fix).

[rpm60912]

Now, I need to find a new saddle for the OO-09 because the one from the parlor is too fat to fit.

I pushed it in, but it sank to the point there's no more height left at all.  Good thing I managed to pull the itty-bitty area

hardly sticking out with a pair of pliers.

Since I'm happy now with the parlor-walnut, I guess I don't need to experiment with bone saddle anymore? Also, with the action raised, does that mean increased tension - and would I need to make a truss rod adjustment?

ricky

[jeremy3220]

Also, with the action raised, does that mean increased tension - and would I need to make a truss rod adjustment?

No it shouldn't matter. But since you have the saddle in, this shouldn't be a theoretical question anyway(see for yourself).