Are Members in the Larrivee Group Primarily Plectrum or Fingerstyle Players?

Started by William2, February 24, 2024, 10:06:38 AM

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Quote from: ducktrapper on February 26, 2024, 01:31:06 PMSure but are they any better players due to that? Hendrix would play any old off the wall stratocaster and sound the same. Apparently, he didn't care much about the details involved in the guitar as long as it had a tremolo arm and he preferred right handed ones. 

Here's the quote I found.

"There was only one model of Strat back then (Edit: one tremolo equipped model that is), and that is what he used. He always bought the common easily available RH (right hand) version of that one tremolo equipped model. He'd buy freshly-made ones from retail stores as needed."

   
Why would anyone care if someone "obsessed"? Did obsessing hold back Eddie VanHalen? This happens a lot with complex topics. It feels like someone going into an art gallery and being disruptive because they don't understand or like the art. Saying, "I don't have a preference" is one thing but I don't get turning it into a moral high ground.

Eddie Van Halen kind of sheds new light on the matter.  He was obsessed and an absolute genius.  That example actually helps me understand this entire topic a bit better and see it in a different way. 

Quote from: Silence Dogood on February 26, 2024, 02:11:34 PMEddie Van Halen kind of sheds new light on the matter.  He was obsessed and an absolute genius.  That example actually helps me understand this entire topic a bit better and see it in a different way. 
Eric Johnson, another genius guitarist, would only use weak 9 volt batteries in his pedals. Never a PSU, never new batteries. Only low strength ones. For the tone.
That seems like an obsessive time waster for me but I still love the fact that people explore things like this. I also like that some guys pick up whatever guitar and jam out. Guitars would really suck if there weren't some people obsessing over the tiny things. Christian Martin is the first one that comes to mind. Modern acoustics are based on the result of his endless experimentation.

Quote from: B0WIE on February 26, 2024, 03:02:14 PMEric Johnson, another genius guitarist, would only use weak 9 volt batteries in his pedals. Never a PSU, never new batteries. Only low strength ones. For the tone.
That seems like an obsessive time waster for me but I still love the fact that people explore things like this. I also like that some guys pick up whatever guitar and jam out. Guitars would really suck if there weren't some people obsessing over the tiny things. Christian Martin is the first one that comes to mind. Modern acoustics are based on the result of his endless experimentation.

I didn't know that about Eric Johnson and batteries.  Man, talk about obsessed.  But at the same time, wow, what tone!

Speaking of EJ, I randomly found this young dude online recently.  He sounds a lot like EJ.  Check him out:

https://youtu.be/PF6SFoCdsrs?feature=shared

Quote from: B0WIE on February 26, 2024, 02:00:54 PMWhy would anyone care if someone "obsessed"? Did obsessing hold back Eddie VanHalen? This happens a lot with complex topics. It feels like someone going into an art gallery and being disruptive because they don't understand or like the art. Saying, "I don't have a preference" is one thing but I don't get turning it into a moral high ground.

Is that what I'm doing? I always assume there are young people who don't post but read these threads. I would tell them not to listen to a bunch of old farts arguing about things that don't matter, to have fun, make music, play their guitars and don't worry about what scale their guitar is or how it is braced or what wood it's made of and if they need strings to put six new ones on it. If I get through to one of them, I've done well.  :tongue: 

Quote from: B0WIE on February 26, 2024, 03:02:14 PMChristian Martin is the first one that comes to mind. Modern acoustics are based on the result of his endless experimentation.

Yet, almost no one thinks a 2024 Martin is better than a 1934 model or would trade one for the other.  :?

https://staygoldguitars.com/products/copy-of-1953-d-18-replaced-top

I am primarily a fingerpicker.
Mike
Larrivee OM-03, OM-03 laurel, OM-50, L-03 laurel, LSV-03 Forum VI, 000-01

Quote from: mike in lytle on February 26, 2024, 10:03:33 PMI am primarily a fingerpicker.
Mike

That makes three of us Mike. Do you play standard or scalloped braced Larrivee's?
Larrivee D-40R
Larrivee SD-40R
Larrivee D-40
Larrivee D-03R

Quote from: William2 on February 27, 2024, 09:26:36 AMThat makes three of us Mike. Do you play standard or scalloped braced Larrivee's?
Both. I have two OM-03 bodies, an L-03 body (all 3 standard bracing), an LSV-03 (Forum VI) that was built with hybrid bracing, and an OM-50 with hybrid bracing. By hybrid I mean the bracing commonly known as the "40 series", which you refer to as scalloped.
I would not get a Larrivee with hybrid bracing in rosewood, and I tend to not like the large body (L, D, J) with hybrid, because the bass is overpronounced.
By no means am I an expert, but I have no preference for one system over the other in my own guitars, and they all sound great. Not too fond of the square headstock, though.
The soundhole size also matters, the F-VI has the smaller LS-type soundhole, the OM-50 has a large soundhole. I can't really describe how the size affects the sound, but Bowie has offered comments in the past.
Mike
Larrivee OM-03, OM-03 laurel, OM-50, L-03 laurel, LSV-03 Forum VI, 000-01

Quote from: mike in lytle on February 27, 2024, 01:06:25 PMBoth. I have two OM-03 bodies, an L-03 body (all 3 standard bracing), an LSV-03 (Forum VI) that was built with hybrid bracing, and an OM-50 with hybrid bracing. By hybrid I mean the bracing commonly known as the "40 series", which you refer to as scalloped.
I would not get a Larrivee with hybrid bracing in rosewood, and I tend to not like the large body (L, D, J) with hybrid, because the bass is overpronounced.
By no means am I an expert, but I have no preference for one system over the other in my own guitars, and they all sound great. Not too fond of the square headstock, though.
The soundhole size also matters, the F-VI has the smaller LS-type soundhole, the OM-50 has a large soundhole. I can't really describe how the size affects the sound, but Bowie has offered comments in the past.
Mike

Thanks for the information, Mike. If I get another instrument, I will be the L model. I still have to decide if I prefer mahogany over rosewood. I like both but. But if it5 is rosewood, my dealer has a lefty L model now with the standard bracing. I'll ask him what he thinks. I am aware of Mr. BOWIE's comments on the enlarged sound hole. I do have one instrument with this, and I like it. One luthier I watch occasionally described the enlarged sound hole sound as less constipated LOL.
Larrivee D-40R
Larrivee SD-40R
Larrivee D-40
Larrivee D-03R

Quote from: William2 on February 27, 2024, 03:12:07 PMIf I get another instrument, I will be the L model. I still have to decide if I prefer mahogany over rosewood. I like both but. But if it5 is rosewood, my dealer has a lefty L model now with the standard bracing.
I am sure you will like the L-body, and L-bodies were my favorite, but I evolved to the OM.
I also played the L-40 and L-40R in 2016 when they were made for a short while, and reviewed them in the forum. I didn't understand as much about the Larrivee sound as I do now. I gave both those guitars pretty good marks, but I would not do so today. I would consider the L-40R to be nearly unplayable due to the bass, and putting 40-series bracing on an L-body is the ruination of a really good instrument.
Mike
Mike
Larrivee OM-03, OM-03 laurel, OM-50, L-03 laurel, LSV-03 Forum VI, 000-01

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