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Title: WHO IS THE MOST......?
Post by: abalone at last on July 28, 2012, 06:40:28 PM
Who is the most under rated acoustic guitar player? I'll vote for Greg Lake....very instrumental in performing acoustic guitar at large venues...here he is at California jam...who do you like?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoxHGxQw9ws
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Post by: broKen on July 28, 2012, 11:06:34 PM
Tommy Emmanuel. He's pretty good.
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Post by: flatlander on July 29, 2012, 01:09:41 AM
I don't know, but I'm sure it's some rhythm player I've never heard....:)
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Post by: ducktrapper on July 29, 2012, 07:57:13 AM
Pretty sure it's me. I'm so underrated, I'm unrated. But I'm not that bad. I mean if you've heard of someone, how underrated can they be?  :wink:

Underrated is one word, by the way. 
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Post by: abalone at last on July 29, 2012, 04:25:17 PM
thanks for the spellcheck....good answers ...therefore the most "underrated"...could be a bass player.....which Greg Lake was/is ...see what I mean.
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Post by: ducktrapper on July 30, 2012, 07:51:45 AM
Quote from: abalone at last on July 29, 2012, 04:25:17 PM
thanks for the spellcheck....good answers ...therefore the most "underrated"...could be a bass player.....which Greg Lake was/is ...see what I mean.

Ah so! I know lots of bass players who are decent guitar players. Something about those big strings. There's a pretty decent underrated guitar player in every town in the country, no doubt. I know several.  
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Post by: Danny on July 30, 2012, 11:04:21 AM
   I don't know who is the most underrated, but I'll add "John Lodge" to the mix. He is the bass player for the Moody Blues, and a very good one. (Listen to "Story in your eyes") But he also plays rhythm guitar on some songs while Justin Hayward plays lead.

   Greg Lake is a good guitar player.
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Post by: CZERO9RW on July 30, 2012, 11:05:01 AM
There are a few famous folks who became famous for other stuff and have been overlooked for how good they are as musicians; Glen Campbell, James Taylor, Justin Beiber... err, no.  :humour:

Anyway, I WAS serious about the first two I mentioned!
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Post by: rockstar_not on July 30, 2012, 12:06:11 PM
Playing bass the past few years has been what forced me to learn the fretboard.  At least on EADG!

Seriously, I'm a strummer and box-pattern player.  I knew the notes on the low E and high e strings by fret.

Being dissatisfied with my keyboard entered bass playing in my home recordings, I bought a cheap SX SPJ 62 bass about 5 years ago (basically a sort-of copy of a 1962 custom P-bass) to see if I couldn't improve with a 'real' bass.  I play with a pick.

I now play regularly in two different church worship teams.  I've learned more about learning notes on the fretboard from this experience, than 25 years of playing at acoustic guitar. 

If you ever get a chance to take a John Standefer workshop in your area (John is a Larrivée endorsed artist and Winfield winner amongst other honors and accolades), he pounds home the message that learning all the notes on the fretboard is one of the keys to creative and comfortable lead playing and rhythm playing, for that matter.

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Post by: CZERO9RW on July 30, 2012, 12:15:37 PM
Quote from: rockstar_not on July 30, 2012, 12:06:11 PM
Playing bass the past few years has been what forced me to learn the fretboard.  At least on EADG!

Seriously, I'm a strummer and box-pattern player.  I knew the notes on the low E and high e strings by fret.

Being dissatisfied with my keyboard entered bass playing in my home recordings, I bought a cheap SX SPJ 62 bass about 5 years ago (basically a sort-of copy of a 1962 custom P-bass) to see if I couldn't improve with a 'real' bass.  I play with a pick.

I now play regularly in two different church worship teams.  I've learned more about learning notes on the fretboard from this experience, than 25 years of playing at acoustic guitar. 

If you ever get a chance to take a John Standefer workshop in your area (John is a Larrivée endorsed artist and Winfield winner amongst other honors and accolades), he pounds home the message that learning all the notes on the fretboard is one of the keys to creative and comfortable lead playing and rhythm playing, for that matter.




So, are you saying you are the most underated bass player out there?  :wink:
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Post by: ducktrapper on July 30, 2012, 12:53:24 PM
Quote from: rockstar_not on July 30, 2012, 12:06:11 PM
Playing bass the past few years has been what forced me to learn the fretboard.  At least on EADG!

Seriously, I'm a strummer and box-pattern player.  I knew the notes on the low E and high e strings by fret.

Being dissatisfied with my keyboard entered bass playing in my home recordings, I bought a cheap SX SPJ 62 bass about 5 years ago (basically a sort-of copy of a 1962 custom P-bass) to see if I couldn't improve with a 'real' bass.  I play with a pick.

I now play regularly in two different church worship teams.  I've learned more about learning notes on the fretboard from this experience, than 25 years of playing at acoustic guitar. 

If you ever get a chance to take a John Standefer workshop in your area (John is a Larrivée endorsed artist and Winfield winner amongst other honors and accolades), he pounds home the message that learning all the notes on the fretboard is one of the keys to creative and comfortable lead playing and rhythm playing, for that matter.



Amen. The ability to name every note you play is a big step towards ... underratedness.  :thumb
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Post by: tubeornot2b on September 05, 2012, 11:28:52 PM
David Bromberg.
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Post by: unclrob on September 06, 2012, 08:56:28 AM
Quote from: tubeornot2b on September 05, 2012, 11:28:52 PM
David Bromberg.

I can get behind that. :+1:
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Post by: ncognito on September 08, 2012, 01:04:37 PM
Quote from: tubeornot2b on September 05, 2012, 11:28:52 PM
David Bromberg.

Yes, Bromberg is soooo good, and so is another David...  Rawlings that is.  David Rawlings is definitely my current favorite.

   DAVE
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Post by: bearsville0 on September 08, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
Dennis Cahill

Plays Irish music and is the ace accompanist for County Clare fiddle player Martin Hayes
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Post by: WillRoland on September 09, 2012, 01:39:06 PM
QuoteYes, Bromberg is soooo good, and so is another David...  Rawlings that is.  David Rawlings is definitely my current favorite.

Rawlings is fantastic.  Michael Daves is fantastic also.
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Post by: ffinke on September 09, 2012, 10:28:14 PM
Ever heard of this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmzMIvW_HX4

He's got my vote!

f
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Post by: Mr_LV19E on September 11, 2012, 11:23:07 PM
Quote from: abalone at last on July 28, 2012, 06:40:28 PM
Who is the most under rated acoustic guitar player? I'll vote for Greg Lake....very instrumental in performing acoustic guitar at large venues...here he is at California jam...who do you like?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoxHGxQw9ws

Beautiful and all the while chewing gum.  :laughin:
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Post by: Davey on October 19, 2012, 11:57:05 PM
The late Terry Kath of the band Chicago, I know he was mostly an electric player , but his knowledge of
chords and his feel were so damn good.
Dave
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Post by: hadden on October 20, 2012, 07:47:30 AM
Quote from: CZERO9RW on July 30, 2012, 11:05:01 AM
There are a few famous folks who became famous for other stuff and have been overlooked for how good they are as musicians; Glen Campbell, James Taylor, Justin Beiber... err, no.  :humour:

Anyway, I WAS serious about the first two I mentioned!
Beiber has a fair amount of talent as a young musician underneath that disposable pop for tween girls. In terms of chops I don't think Taylor is much of a player, though I am a fan of his music. Campbell was a typical Nashville monster guitarist.
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Post by: rockstar_not on October 22, 2012, 08:25:46 AM
Quote from: hadden on October 20, 2012, 07:47:30 AM
Beiber has a fair amount of talent as a young musician underneath that disposable pop for tween girls. In terms of chops I don't think Taylor is much of a player, though I am a fan of his music. Campbell was a typical Nashville monster guitarist.

I've said the same thing about the Bieber - but usually get laughed at for saying it.

As for underrated acoustic players, someone recently reminded me of Mark O'Connor - acoustic EVERYTHING!

-Scott
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Post by: vacapicker on October 22, 2012, 11:45:00 AM
JEFF MONKMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :beer
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Post by: Kazels on October 22, 2012, 11:46:56 PM
This guy's probably known more for his ethereal electric guitar sound from the 60's but I've always appreciated his acoustic stuff.

Jorma Kaukonen

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77-vQJtbFas&feature=related
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Post by: bifenwolf on October 23, 2012, 03:10:42 PM
Alex Lifeson.......Lets hope Rush gets in the R&R Hall of Fame this year.
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Post by: willfo on October 23, 2012, 03:44:02 PM
Elliot Smith was awfully good at fingerpicking folk melodies and using great chord changes in his rhythm playing. I also really enjoy Stephen Stills on the acoustic. My favorite guitarist of all time has to be Chris Whitley - just a singular , unique musical talent. I guess Stills isn't really that under rated , but when he plays acoustic his timing and phrasing blow me away.
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Post by: hadden on October 23, 2012, 04:29:33 PM
Nick Drake.
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Post by: abalone at last on November 19, 2012, 12:23:33 AM
...i'm beginning to think its
                                                      MrPCT57

                                                                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaNcAhGciLk&feature=plcp
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Post by: Tio Kimo on November 19, 2012, 12:33:44 PM
very cool to see Bromberg called out.  :+1: on Kaukonen as well.

A guy that I've enjoyed for years, but doesn't get a ton of press is Willy Porter out of Milwaukee. Hot shot guitar player who has focused more on songwriting than creating platforms to blow you away with his chops, but man, he's got the chops.

forgive the guild promo...but it shows a bit of his prowess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRgU5kNDanw
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Post by: unclrob on November 19, 2012, 01:11:13 PM
After finding his show I'd add Marty Stuart and his guitar player who I only know as couz,both really tastefull players.
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Post by: ducktrapper on November 19, 2012, 02:06:07 PM
I don't get how famous and quite successful guitar players can be considered underrated. OTOH, what's the point of naming someone who no one's ever heard of, without giving some indication of his/her skill (thanks Tio). Might as well just make up a name. Irving Watson, of Mousetrap Saskatchewan is the most underrated player ever! Too bad you'll never hear him.   :?  
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Post by: Danny on November 19, 2012, 02:10:54 PM
Quote from: ducktrapper on November 19, 2012, 02:06:07 PM
I don't get how famous and quite successful guitar players can be considered underrated. OTOH, what's the point of naming someone who no one's ever heard of, without giving some indication of his/her skill (thanks Tio). Might as well just make up a name. Irving Watson, of Mousetrap Saskatchewan is the most underrated player ever! Too bad you'll never hear him.   :?   
The whole point is that we really needed for you to say something witty and cool. It keeps US from dozing off talking about strings and tuner buttons.
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Post by: unclrob on November 19, 2012, 02:31:57 PM
 :roll
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Post by: ducktrapper on November 19, 2012, 02:36:46 PM
HA! So ... perhaps what we really want to talk about is ... why isn't my favourite guitar player your favourite guitar player too?  :beer   
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Post by: Danny on November 19, 2012, 02:38:16 PM
Quote from: ducktrapper on November 19, 2012, 02:36:46 PM
HA! So ... perhaps what we really want to talk about is ... why isn't my favourite guitar player your favourite guitar player too?  :beer   
Now yer talkin.
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Post by: Jeff on November 27, 2012, 04:01:44 PM
Quote from: hadden on October 23, 2012, 04:29:33 PM
Nick Drake.

+1. And John Martyn and Richard Thompson (since we're talking Brit acoustics (although Thompson's no slouch on electric))
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Post by: rockstar_not on November 27, 2012, 06:13:33 PM
Quote from: unclrob on November 19, 2012, 01:11:13 PM
After finding his show I'd add Marty Stuart and his guitar player who I only know as couz,both really tastefull players.

+1 unclrob

He was the big surprise to me at the annual "Guitar Town" which happens in Copper Mountain resort in CO every August.  This is where I got to stand within inches of Tommy Emmanuel (he was playing his Maton) as he just mesmerized with a non-stop hour+ show.

For those of you in Colorado or anywhere near:  "Guitar Town" is a pilgrimage-worthy destination.  An entire weekend of free concerts by the guitar gods, known and relatively unknown.

http://villageatcopper.com/guitarTown/  August 9-11, 2013.
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Post by: magicshoemonkey on November 28, 2012, 04:54:07 PM
I'm not sure what qualifies someone as underrated? If it's just obscure, maybe Duck Baker. I agree with the mentions of Bromberg, too

This is my second post, but:

:donut :donut
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Post by: brandon on November 28, 2012, 10:26:17 PM
there are a couple of CCM artists who can play quite well but aren't really recognized for their playing. Steven Curtis Chapman comes to mind as well as Josh Wilson. Jimmy Needham isn't too bad either.
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Post by: clairelynchfan on April 20, 2013, 11:36:51 PM
I'm going to have to say Jim Hurst, he's fairly well know in the progress bluegrass circle, although his style is a bit jazzy with a mix of funk, but not really out side of it. He is phenomenal! He is currently touring solo and has done a couple albums solo aswell. You'd never now that he's the only one playing until you either look up or read the liner notes!. In the past he has toured and recorded as a duet with bassest Missy Raines and with the Claire Lynch Band.   :donut2  :donut
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Post by: unclrob on April 21, 2013, 10:43:01 AM
Can I add Jerry Garcia....
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Post by: dani3lswitzer on April 30, 2013, 10:28:02 AM
Underrated... I vote for:

Cody Kilby
Bryan Sutton
Keller Williams
Larry Keel

Obviously they are all well(ish) known, but IMO not enough people know about them!
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Post by: dani3lswitzer on April 30, 2013, 10:29:51 AM
Quote from: clairelynchfan on April 20, 2013, 11:36:51 PM
I'm going to have to say Jim Hurst, he's fairly well know in the progress bluegrass circle,

:+1:

Forgot to mention him. Saw him at a small microbrewery show in Jax a few years ago and was blown away.
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Post by: placoustic11 on May 04, 2013, 10:00:19 PM
I like Mousetrap Saskatchewan,that guy can really play. :guitar
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Post by: abalone at last on May 13, 2013, 10:44:04 PM
Mousetrap Sask is so underrated he or she wins in my book.....thanks for posting placoustic...you nailed it!

Ian Anderson was pretty good too in a more well known way as well Ktron...good job everybody.

Ducktrapper is too well known to be underrated!
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Post by: ewalling on May 13, 2013, 11:07:25 PM
Ian Anderson's acoustic guitar playing brought the instrument to my attention at the age of 14, and was my main motivation for learning. I saw Tull play live a couple of times in the mid-late 70s and his acoustic guitar playing is every bit as good live as it is in the studio. Wonderful, delicate, fast runs and fills. His playing seemed to embroider Tull songs, if that's not too strange a way to describe it.
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Post by: ducktrapper on May 14, 2013, 07:33:36 AM
Quote from: abalone at last on May 13, 2013, 10:44:04 PM
Ducktrapper is too well known to be underrated!

Hmmmm. I am a legend in my own mind.  :beer
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Post by: willfo on May 15, 2013, 02:21:36 PM
Me and my D-03R of course :humour: :humour: :humour:   <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-HgIMphz3Ls?list=UUGkieJ2hP7VqH2dKEZsn1nA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>