Main Forums => Technical Discussion => Topic started by: skyline on November 12, 2024, 08:46:29 PM

Title: Casein flat picks
Post by: skyline on November 12, 2024, 08:46:29 PM
For a long time, when I wanted the tone of heavy pick on acoustic I went with Jim Dunlop Round Tip 207 Jazz (https://www.jimdunlop.com/jazztone-large-round-tip-pick/). They are great for bass lines or lead, but hard to get a balanced strumming sound unless you're really pounding.

Recently D'Addario offered a deal for redeeming "Player's Points" and I shelled out some points for some 2 mm Casein flat picks (https://www.daddario.com/products/accessories/picks-and-pick-holders/Casein/casein-351-standard-pick/). Somehow the composition of these picks gives a lot more range for strumming, while keeping the ability to really pound out a bass line.

Has anyone else tried these?

The D'Addario's have the standard guitar triangle shape, while the Dunlop's have a "wider" rounder shape

The Casein picks are kind of pricey, but they probably last a long time (if you don't drop them through the cottage dock)

I'm also wondering if anyone has tried the Black Mountain Tagua Flatpicks (https://blackmountainpicks.com/pages/black-mountain-tagua-flatpick)?

Title: Re: Casein flat picks
Post by: Silence Dogood on November 12, 2024, 11:30:18 PM
I've got a Hense pick made from the same kind of material.  It's absolutely great. I use it a lot for mandolin too.
Title: Re: Casein flat picks
Post by: StringPicker6 on November 13, 2024, 06:48:06 AM
I bet these are really nice picks, but I just looked them up and at $24 for one pick, I just can't justify buying it. I remember Martin came out with a super fancy pick that came in a little box and everything.  Not sure if they ever sold any?
Title: Re: Casein flat picks
Post by: Queequeg on November 13, 2024, 07:20:18 AM
Quote from: StringPicker6 on November 13, 2024, 06:48:06 AMI just looked them up and at $24 for one pick, I just can't justify buying it. I remember Martin came out with a super fancy pick that came in a little box and everything.  Not sure if they ever sold any?
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Title: Re: Casein flat picks
Post by: Silence Dogood on November 13, 2024, 09:11:56 AM
Bluechip, Redbear, Apollo picks are around $40 and go up from there.  Redbears often have a waiting list.  There is a big market for this stuff.  The Hense picks are around $20 on eBay and slightly less at Strings By Mail.  If you're curious you should try one of these higher-end picks.  If you don't like it you can always sell it on eBay at a slight loss. 
Title: Re: Casein flat picks
Post by: skyline on November 13, 2024, 07:00:04 PM
Quote from: Silence Dogood on November 12, 2024, 11:30:18 PMI've got a Hense pick made from the same kind of material.  It's absolutely great. I use it a lot for mandolin too.

Thanks, I'll keep an eye open for Hense, so far no Canadian suppliers :winkin:

Oops - didn't even try it on mandolin yet!

Quote from: StringPicker6 on November 13, 2024, 06:48:06 AMI bet these are really nice picks, but I just looked them up and at $24 for one pick, I just can't justify buying it.

It was a two-fer using D'Adarrio points, so I figured it was worth a try (plus shipping was free)

Quote from: Silence Dogood on November 13, 2024, 09:11:56 AMBluechip, Redbear, Apollo picks are around $40 and go up from there.

Right - more to keep an eye out for.

I'm fortunate that I generally don't lose picks - though I mostly fingerpick anyway.

I figure $20 - $50 isn't all that terrible, particularly compared to what fiddlers con pay for a bow . . .
Title: Re: Casein flat picks
Post by: StringPicker6 on November 13, 2024, 09:19:50 PM
I actually have some points saved on the daddario website, but not enough for one of these picks. If I had enough, I probably would have gotten it, just out of curiosity.
Title: Re: Casein flat picks
Post by: Silence Dogood on November 14, 2024, 01:21:38 PM
Here is the one I bought:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126104463687?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=F475npcdQQy&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=qjtxw2rut6w&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Title: Re: Casein flat picks
Post by: teh on November 14, 2024, 04:11:41 PM
I'm not much of a flatpicker so heavier picks don't appeal to me, especially when they have a price tag of $20 to $40 or more for a single pick. I have faith that the players who use these picks are happy with the result.

When I visited the Martin factory in September, I bought a 12 pack of .46 mm triangular picks for my percussive strumming tyle on both a 6 and 12 string. The 12 packs are also available in medium and heavy gauges too. 65 to 70 cents per pick also appeals to my Scottish thrift.

On a personal note, I prefer using a thumbpick (Fred Kelly slick picks or speed picks) and fingers. They work well on all of my guitars regardless of the wood combinations used, scale length, bracing or body shape. YMMV.
Title: Re: Casein flat picks
Post by: Silence Dogood on November 23, 2024, 12:21:03 PM
FYI: Apollo is having a sale on casein picks right now.  They are one of the heavy-hitter picks out there.