This place is too quiet. Okay, I'll start. New music pretty much all sucks. I used to follow new releases pretty closely but I stopped due to the prior sentence. Sure, tried and true artists still make some good music but as for the rest? Heard it all before, done better. What am I missing? :guitar
Hello, Mr. Ducktrapper. It's nice to have you back, sir.
I use a paid streaming service called Tidal (much like Spotify) and try pretty regularly to discovery new or new-to-me music. It is hard, and most of what I hear I don't go back to for a second listen. I go back to my old favorites a lot - Jeff Lynne, Tom Petty, Wilburys, etc, etc. But sometimes I find it fun to pick an artist and go through their entire catalog. I did this a while back with Foo Fighters, a band that's been around a long time but one I'd never paid much attn to. It was great fun.
Within the last couple years I discovered a brother duo called The Cactus Blossoms that I really like a lot. They are basically a 21st century version of the Everly Bros. Not only are the harmonies flat out amazing, but the songs are very, very good.
I also recently discovered an Irish family group called The Corrs that's been around for a long time. I love the harmonies, strong melodies, and the mixture of trad and contemporary instruments they use.
I have also been listening to a Brit group some called Jet that have some good albums. This is gritty rock and roll - like a mixture of AC/DC and Oasis. Great stuff.
There are others that have caught my attn, but these stand out the most. I take long walks daily and love good music when I do. There is a sea of music out there to wade through, but if you look long enough you'll find some good stuff.
I'm here :wave
Don't listen to too much music these days new or old.Mostly playing old tune's that I want to record for myself.Playing in two duo's of way different from each other with too vast style's I'm just trying to play as me.
Quote from: Silence Dogood on June 26, 2021, 12:45:56 PM
Hello, Mr. Ducktrapper. It's nice to have you back, sir.
I use a paid streaming service called Tidal (much like Spotify) and try pretty regularly to discovery new or new-to-me music. It is hard, and most of what I hear I don't go back to for a second listen. I go back to my old favorites a lot - Jeff Lynne, Tom Petty, Wilburys, etc, etc. But sometimes I find it fun to pick an artist and go through their entire catalog. I did this a while back with Foo Fighters, a band that's been around a long time but one I'd never paid much attn to. It was great fun.
Within the last couple years I discovered a brother duo called The Cactus Blossoms that I really like a lot. They are basically a 21st century version of the Everly Bros. Not only are the harmonies flat out amazing, but the songs are very, very good.
I also recently discovered an Irish family group called The Corrs that's been around for a long time. I love the harmonies, strong melodies, and the mixture of trad and contemporary instruments they use.
I have also been listening to a Brit group some called Jet that have some good albums. This is gritty rock and roll - like a mixture of AC/DC and Oasis. Great stuff.
There are others that have caught my attn, but these stand out the most. I take long walks daily and love good music when I do. There is a sea of music out there to wade through, but if you look long enough you'll find some good stuff.
Thanks, I'll have a listen. I've heard The Corrs but probably worth a double take. Like you, these days I tend to listen to tried and true things from my past. I'm to the point and age of not wanting to waste my time for the new rush. But I like to keep an open mind and always willing to be surprised and charmed. :cheers
Quote from: unclrob on June 26, 2021, 12:47:29 PM
I'm here :wave
Don't listen to too much music these days new or old.Mostly playing old tune's that I want to record for myself.Playing in two duo's of way different from each other with too vast style's I'm just trying to play as me.
I do as much as I can these days. I write and have a few new songs that I quite like but as for playing? Mostly fifteen minutes or so at a time because my hands start complaining that my brain is too optimistic. :guitar
My hands,feet,knee's,hips,back and neck complain all the time I just stopped listening still play about an hour 5 times a day.Scotch and a mild pain pill a couple times a week.Plus my nightly illegal smile keeps me going. :roll
Correction: Jet is an Aussie band, not British. I probably listened to this song of theirs 30 times today:
https://youtu.be/UBOeDPzXBqI
Quote from: Silence Dogood on June 26, 2021, 11:59:24 PM
Correction: Jet is an Aussie band, not British. I probably listened to this song of theirs 30 times today:
https://youtu.be/UBOeDPzXBqI
That was alright. The Beatles influenced so many bands. Sort of reminded of Del Amitri. I always loved this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t09Gd8KCfBo
Quote from: unclrob on June 26, 2021, 11:08:52 PM
My hands,feet,knee's,hips,back and neck complain all the time I just stopped listening still play about an hour 5 times a day.Scotch and a mild pain pill a couple times a week.Plus my nightly illegal smile keeps me going. :roll
Right on brother! Back in Canada. Enjoying good beer and Wiser's Deluxe. Too expensive though. It's Canada. :beer
Quote from: ducktrapper on June 26, 2021, 10:16:10 AM
This place is too quiet. Okay, I'll start. New music pretty much all sucks. I used to follow new releases pretty closely but I stopped due to the prior sentence. Sure, tried and true artists still make some good music but as for the rest? Heard it all before, done better. What am I missing? :guitar
I have similar issues with new music, but I'm wondering how much I am to blame. My musical tastes have narrowed quite a bit over the decades to the point where the only music I want to hear is the same old-folkie fingerstyle stuff I play myself - which apparently no-one actually writes anymore. I've exhausted the back catalogue of the recent artists I've liked, Aimee Mann, Suzanne Vega, Jackson Browne, Eva Cassidy etc and have given up finding anything new.
Back in the day I was reasonably diverse in the rock genre, listening to guys like Dylan, Donovan, Beatles, Procal Harum, Pink Floyd, Allman Bros etc. Now I wait until Mark Knopfler churns out another album every 4 years and half the songs I can't listen to more than once.
Quote from: jpmist on June 27, 2021, 06:43:36 AM
I have similar issues with new music, but I'm wondering how much I am to blame. My musical tastes have narrowed quite a bit over the decades to the point where the only music I want to hear is the same old-folkie fingerstyle stuff I play myself - which apparently no-one actually writes anymore. I've exhausted the back catalogue of the recent artists I've liked, Aimee Mann, Suzanne Vega, Jackson Browne, Eva Cassidy etc and have given up finding anything new.
Back in the day I was reasonably diverse in the rock genre, listening to guys like Dylan, Donovan, Beatles, Procal Harum, Pink Floyd, Allman Bros etc. Now I wait until Mark Knopfler churns out another album every 4 years and half the songs I can't listen to more than once.
I hear that. We have very similar tastes it seems. As for new music, maybe it's the bloody auto tuning but so much of it sounds the same. I watch some of Rick Beato's videos and he goes into some detail to explain why new music is so boring.
It's the 50th anniversary of Joni Mitchell's "Blue".
The young women who dominate popular music today don't even come close to what she did.
Quote from: Queequeg on June 27, 2021, 12:04:05 PM
It's the 50th anniversary of Joni Mitchell's "Blue".
The young women who dominate popular music today don't even come close to what she did.
I have about 30 - 40 songs of her's in my iTunes. I enjoy her songs and writing, but her alternate tunings always kept me from learning her songs, so I never got to really appreciate her as much as I might have. It's all my poor fingers can do to know where to go in standard tuning - I have no hope with alternates.
I dunno, we have to let new generations have and enjoy their own discoveries, just like my generation did when we let the Beatles take over from Elvis. There are a lot of Taylor Swift fans who might disagree with you, but I have no horse in that race . . .
Quote from: Queequeg on June 27, 2021, 12:04:05 PM
It's the 50th anniversary of Joni Mitchell's "Blue".
The young women who dominate popular music today don't even come close to what she did.
Amen. I always said that she was the one young woman could hit the long ball with the big boys. I may have liked For the Roses even better. Or Court and Spark.
I started watching Yellowstone on Prime this morning and saw the name of this band on a Marquee as one of the Duttons drove into town. Looked them up. Not bad. I liked the acoustic break.
https://www.youtube.com/user/ryanshuperubberband
Quote from: jpmist on June 27, 2021, 01:19:20 PM
I have about 30 - 40 songs of her's in my iTunes. I enjoy her songs and writing, but her alternate tunings always kept me from learning her songs, so I never got to really appreciate her as much as I might have. It's all my poor fingers can do to know where to go in standard tuning - I have no hope with alternates.
I dunno, we have to let new generations have and enjoy their own discoveries, just like my generation did when we let the Beatles take over from Elvis. There are a lot of Taylor Swift fans who might disagree with you, but I have no horse in that race . . .
Of course you're correct about each generation having their own best artists, but still, there are giants of an era. Like The Beatles. And Joni.
I'm well-acquainted with folks disagreeing with me. It's been my lifelong companion.
Quote from: Queequeg on June 27, 2021, 02:40:18 PM
Of course you're correct about each generation having their own best artists, but still, there are giants of an era. Like The Beatles. And Joni.
I'm well-acquainted with folks disagreeing with me. It's been my lifelong companion.
I knew there was a reason I like you! I'm the nail that sticks up and won't stay down. :laughin:
Quote from: ducktrapper on June 27, 2021, 02:49:46 PM
I knew there was a reason I like you! I'm the nail that sticks up and won't stay down. :laughin:
Brothers of different mothers.
:cheers
Every Sunday I get an email from Pitchfork and it contains a link to albums I should listen to right now. Here's the one I got today. Compare the albums by the young women to anything Mitchell did. Phew. Man.
https://pitchfork.com/news/9-new-albums-you-should-listen-to-now-tyler-the-creator-faye-webster-lucy-dacus-spellling-and-more
Had a listen to The Cactus Blossoms. I liked the guitars, voices and the overall sound but have to say that none of their songs grabbed me. Reminded me more of Chris Isaac than the Everlys and, like Isaac, I liked the sound but couldn't name one of his songs. Have you listened to The O'Kanes and/or Keiran Kane? For me, highly recommended.
Quote from: jpmist on June 27, 2021, 06:43:36 AM
I have similar issues with new music, but I'm wondering how much I am to blame. My musical tastes have narrowed quite a bit over the decades to the point where the only music I want to hear is the same old-folkie fingerstyle stuff I play myself - which apparently no-one actually writes anymore. I've exhausted the back catalogue of the recent artists I've liked, Aimee Mann, Suzanne Vega, Jackson Browne, Eva Cassidy etc and have given up finding anything new.
Fans of Eva Cassidy (and I count myself among them) may enjoy Veronica Swift's "This Bitter Earth". (https://youtu.be/7EVrj4r34p4)
I find it to be at once both rich and spare.
Quote from: ducktrapper on June 29, 2021, 12:04:21 PM
Had a listen to The Cactus Blossoms. I liked the guitars, voices and the overall sound but have to say that none of their songs grabbed me. Reminded me more of Chris Isaac than the Everlys and, like Isaac, I liked the sound but couldn't name one of his songs. Have you listened to The O'Kanes and/or Keiran Kane? For me, highly recommended.
I'm not sure which Cactus Blossoms songs you heard, but I would recommend "Powder Blue" and "Mississippi" as _very_ catchy songs. YMMV.
Quote from: Silence Dogood on June 29, 2021, 02:11:48 PM
I'm not sure which Cactus Blossoms songs you heard, but I would recommend "Powder Blue" and "Mississippi" as _very_ catchy songs. YMMV.
I heard both. Maybe with further listenings but I'm not a big fan of that dreamy kind of stuff. I didn't hear a Wake Up Little Susie or Bye Bye Love. The Everlys brought in top notch songs from top notch writers. These guys have the chops. They may want to consider that. The song Don't Call Me Crazy was the catchiest thing I heard but, for me, the best songs have me wanting to learn them and I didn't hear anything like that. :beer
A man likes what he likes. No harm in that.
Quote from: Silence Dogood on June 30, 2021, 11:26:31 AM
A man likes what he likes. No harm in that.
I didn't dislike them. They have a good sound. They may be the kind of thing that grows on me. They do sound a lot like the Everlys and that's not a bad thing. Seemed to me, however, that they needed a couple of up tempo, catchy hits. Maybe they have them and I haven't heard them yet. I mean, if I'd only heard All I Have to do is Dream, Devoted to You and Ebony Eyes I might think the same thing about Don and Phil. :beer
Heard this last night on the hockey game of all places. Olivia Rodrigo. Interesting. She's been compared to and accused of stealing Elvis Costello's schtick. Language warning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tqpfjVhZtM
Jack White and The Raconteurs and Ricky SKaggs? There's one I wouldn't have predicted. Pretty decent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qahZ-whM6o
Mandolin Orange? Now renamed Watchhouse, apparently. This is very nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOHkyZ62jjQ
If I search I can find lots of good examples of stuff like this but it's difficult to find anything sounding new. Most of this has been done before and arguably better.
Not sure what genres you gravitate towards, but I fill my Apple Music mostly with Indie Country artists and old rock/blues. There are some great artists in the Indie world, Jesse Daniels, Alice Wallace, Daryl Wayne Dasher, Dallas Moore, Brennen Leigh, Kelley Swindall, Zephaniah Ohora, Milly Raccoon, Charley Crockett, Travis Meadows, Joey Allcorn, Mac Leaphart...I could go on and on...if you really get desperate, check my stuff out. HA!
Cheers,
SS
Quote from: musicrowscott on July 02, 2021, 09:42:17 AM
Not sure what genres you gravitate towards, but I fill my Apple Music mostly with Indie Country artists and old rock/blues. There are some great artists in the Indie world, Jesse Daniels, Alice Wallace, Daryl Wayne Dasher, Dallas Moore, Brennen Leigh, Kelley Swindall, Zephaniah Ohora, Milly Raccoon, Charley Crockett, Travis Meadows, Joey Allcorn, Mac Leaphart...I could go on and on...if you really get desperate, check my stuff out. HA!
Cheers,
SS
Yes, I don't deny there's lots of good music to be discovered. I always search for something unique and different, however. I'd say the last thing I heard that fit that category was probably Dave Carter. I love Gillian Welch. It's been done before but never better. I'll look up some of the ones you mention.
I've certainly listened to your music Scott and enjoyed it. I tar myself with the brush I wield. It's all been done before. Certainly doesn't mean I can't or don't enjoy it or have fun doing it. :beer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs3xXlXSOKk
Interesting convo, thanks all for the links & suggestions! This has gotten me to pondering the state of things a bit.
I don't know if the nature, variety and quality of music hasn't changed so much as how it has fit in my life during the decades. One reason my tastes has changed is that the role music filled is no longer what it was. I have vivid memories of proudly driving to my very first real job out of school to the wonderful Dire Straits "Money for Nothing" which got me hooked to their music and Mark Knopfler. My spectacularly unsuccessful efforts at "getting lucky" at weekend clubs was marked by the bands Genesis, but back then music was mostly something I had to have to listen to in the car driving to work. Who among us doesn't have a box full of 8-track, cassette and CD mix tapes of our favorite tracks to listen in the car?
Now a retired geezer, my car driving has fallen off quite a bit. More and more, at home, I'll have business news, or a podcast on simply for background chatter - something I don't have to pay attention to but breaks the silence.
But one constant has remained - I'm a self taught guitarist and so I've always sought out guitar music I could learn from. The Beatles and Byrds inspired me to pick up the guitar, Clapton, The Allman Bros inspired me on how to play my strat, Knopfler taught me how to drop the pick, other artist have taught me how to construct a song. All that really trained my ear pretty well and improved my finger-picking chops but apparently my specific genre has faded in the marketplace. That's ok, I guess cause the top ten songs I listen to nowadays happens to be written by this guy "jpmist."
Quote from: musicrowscott on July 02, 2021, 09:42:17 AM
Not sure what genres you gravitate towards, but I fill my Apple Music mostly with Indie Country artists and old rock/blues. There are some great artists in the Indie world, Jesse Daniels, Alice Wallace, Daryl Wayne Dasher, Dallas Moore, Brennen Leigh, Kelley Swindall, Zephaniah Ohora, Milly Raccoon, Charley Crockett, Travis Meadows, Joey Allcorn, Mac Leaphart...I could go on and on...if you really get desperate, check my stuff out. HA!
Cheers,
SS
While I must confess that I'm not acquainted with most of the artists you listed above, I have to say that it's a fabulous collection of curiously colorful names there, on a par with some of the NPR appellations.
i.e.: Soraya Sarhaddi Nelson
Sylvia Poggioli
Yuki Noguchi
my personal favorite: Neda Ulaby
And I want to echo duck's remarks regarding your own music, Scott. Great stuff. :thumb
With regards to *new* music these days, I just wanted to say, ..................... "get off my lawn". :roll :roll :roll :humour:
Quote from: Rockysdad on July 02, 2021, 01:46:53 PM
With regards to *new* music these days, I just wanted to say, ..................... "get off my lawn". :roll :roll :roll :humour:
Yep. I still try to allow a couple of invited guests now and then as long as they don't drink
all my beer or litter.
:laughin:
This is interesting in a insecure, moody sort of way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW8XoovSlsM
The funny thing is, that as a poor songwriter, I always try to come up with songs that sound like songs that have been done before. :laughin:
Quote from: musicrowscott on July 02, 2021, 09:42:17 AM
Not sure what genres you gravitate towards, but I fill my Apple Music mostly with Indie Country artists and old rock/blues. There are some great artists in the Indie world, Jesse Daniels, Alice Wallace, Daryl Wayne Dasher, Dallas Moore, Brennen Leigh, Kelley Swindall, Zephaniah Ohora, Milly Raccoon, Charley Crockett, Travis Meadows, Joey Allcorn, Mac Leaphart...I could go on and on...if you really get desperate, check my stuff out. HA!
Cheers,
SS
Listened to a song or two from most of these. Can't and won't listen to the ones on Fakebook. I liked Brennan Leigh a lot. Charlie Crockett was interesting. Cool voice. Wasn't any I really didn't like but tell Zephaniah that Merle wants his voice back. :laughin:
Quote from: jpmist on July 02, 2021, 12:59:45 PM
Interesting convo, thanks all for the links & suggestions! This has gotten me to pondering the state of things a bit.
I don't know if the nature, variety and quality of music hasn't changed so much as how it has fit in my life during the decades. One reason my tastes has changed is that the role music filled is no longer what it was.
This is a great insight, about how music fit into life during the decades. It makes me realize how music was such a big part of youth. We were discovering all this stuff for the first time, and it was happening while we were discovering a lot of other things for the first time. No wonder the music of one's youth has such a lasting impact. It's hard to get excited about some young guitar player because we've already been thrilled by Clapton, EVH, et al when we were kids, and as duck points out, it's all been done.
Many times I find myself not even giving new and younger musicians a fair shot. I'll see some young dude with cool clothes, the ubiquitous tattoos, holding some fancy guitar, and I'll already have my mind made up that I probably won't like his song. And I usually don't. But now and then I'm shocked. But I have to realize (at almost 50) that what I'm seeing for the umpteenth time, some younger person is seeing for the first time; and the tattoo'd, cool clothes guy becomes the backdrop to this younger person's life and experiences. It's just so hard to recapture those kinds of experiences as we get older. And yet all the while, I know there are artists out there that I've never heard of that I would enjoy as much as I've ever enjoyed anything. Just as there are great books I'll never read, wonderful places I'll never visit, etc. C'est la vie.
Quote from: Silence Dogood on July 03, 2021, 08:47:06 AM
This is a great insight, about how music fit into life during the decades. It makes me realize how music was such a big part of youth. We were discovering all this stuff for the first time, and it was happening while we were discovering a lot of other things for the first time. No wonder the music of one's youth has such a lasting impact. It's hard to get excited about some young guitar player because we've already been thrilled by Clapton, EVH, et al when we were kids, and as duck points out, it's all been done.
Many times I find myself not even giving new and younger musicians a fair shot. I'll see some young dude with cool clothes, the ubiquitous tattoos, holding some fancy guitar, and I'll already have my mind made up that I probably won't like his song. And I usually don't. But now and then I'm shocked. But I have to realize (at almost 50) that what I'm seeing for the umpteenth time, some younger person is seeing for the first time; and the tattoo'd, cool clothes guy becomes the backdrop to this younger person's life and experiences. It's just so hard to recapture those kinds of experiences as we get older. And yet all the while, I know there are artists out there that I've never heard of that I would enjoy as much as I've ever enjoyed anything. Just as there are great books I'll never read, wonderful places I'll never visit, etc. C'est la vie.
All very true except, it seems to me that music just is not as important in young people's lives these days. With free streaming etc. I don't think most have the interest or patience to actually listen to anything in its entirety. Heck, I don't. If you buy something, you'll at least give it a listen or two. Then there's auto tuning.
Quote from: ducktrapper on July 03, 2021, 08:55:15 AM
All very true except, it seems to me that music just is not as important in young people's lives these days. With free streaming etc. I don't think most have the interest or patience to actually listen to anything in its entirety. Heck, I don't. If you buy something, you'll at least give it a listen or two. Then there's auto tuning.
Ah, great point. I was talking to a co-worker about this very thing of late. We were talking about going to the mall back in the 80s, having only $10 or $15 we had saved, and agonizing over what "tape" to buy. We had to keep enough money for a slice of pizza and soda pop at the food court too! When we did finally choose our tape, we'd get it home and often SIT AND LISTEN to the whole thing several times, all while devouring every bit of the liner notes. Man, talk about fun times and wonderful memories!
There are probably some odd young folks out there today with serious Luddite tendencies who are kicking against the spirit of the age, buying CDs, and trying to recapture what it was like for us back in the day.
Quote from: Silence Dogood on July 03, 2021, 09:06:39 AM
Ah, great point. I was talking to a co-worker about this very thing of late. We were talking about going to the mall back in the 80s, having only $10 or $15 we had saved, and agonizing over what "tape" to buy. We had to keep enough money for a slice of pizza and soda pop at the food court too! When we did finally choose our tape, we'd get it home and often SIT AND LISTEN to the whole thing several times, all while devouring every bit of the liner notes. Man, talk about fun times and wonderful memories!
There are probably some odd young folks out there today with serious Luddite tendencies who are kicking against the spirit of the age, buying CDs, and trying to recapture what it was like for us back in the day.
Ah the good old days! I gather some are even buying vinyl. I love the Bosch series on Prime. Great soundtrack, great jazz and a prominent turntable! Good show too.