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Title: Have you ever noticed
Post by: unclrob on May 22, 2017, 02:27:16 PM
That voltures don't eat there own dead......make's you go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.


:wave
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: mike in lytle on May 22, 2017, 04:07:58 PM
Quote from: Barefoot Rob on May 22, 2017, 02:27:16 PM
That voltures don't eat there own dead......make's you go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
:donut :donut2 :coffee
Are you trying to change the subject?
Mike
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: broKen on May 22, 2017, 05:27:25 PM
No, I missed that.
But I did notice that since they can't catch anything, or kill anything, that they must eat rotting flesh. Stuff to ponder  :beer
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: unclrob on May 22, 2017, 06:52:29 PM
Quote from: mike in lytle on May 22, 2017, 04:07:58 PM
:donut :donut2 :coffee
Are you trying to change the subject?
Mike

:whistling:

Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: tuffythepug on May 22, 2017, 09:02:07 PM
Deep Thoughts....  with  Barefoot Rob
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: unclrob on May 22, 2017, 09:56:55 PM
Not really just a wondering mind with too much time on its hand,always searching for more useless info and sometime's compairing it to whats going on.Any one every hear an old tune called "Smiling Face's" can never remember the group but a good tune.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: Mikeymac on May 23, 2017, 10:42:40 AM
Quote from: tuffythepug on May 22, 2017, 09:02:07 PM
Deep Thoughts....  with  Barefoot Rob

A good title for a new, "Never-ending Thread, Part II"!
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: Mikeymac on May 23, 2017, 10:45:18 AM
Quote from: Barefoot Rob on May 22, 2017, 09:56:55 PM

Any one every hear an old tune called "Smiling Face's" can never remember the group but a good tune.


Actually, the title of the tune was "Smiling Phases," and it's by Blood, Sweat & Tears...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeXrIkDZarQ

(Looking at YouTube, I see there is a song called "Smiling Faces" done by someone named Kevin Gates...a rap tune - you into rap, Rob Bro'?)

:donut :coffee
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: unclrob on May 24, 2017, 11:15:22 PM
You want to listen to Smiling Faces by the undisputed truth. :cheers
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: ryler on May 29, 2017, 03:17:38 PM
Quote from: Barefoot Rob on May 24, 2017, 11:15:22 PM
You want to listen to Smiling Faces by the undisputed truth. :cheers

That's the one I thought you were talking about.  Haven't heard it in a long time. Were they a one hit wonder? 
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: eded on May 29, 2017, 05:04:52 PM
Quote from: Barefoot Rob on May 24, 2017, 11:15:22 PM
You want to listen to Smiling Faces by the undisputed truth. :cheers

That version by The Temptations is the one I remember...

https://youtu.be/tlzyQSIm8AU

Ed
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: ducktrapper on May 29, 2017, 07:19:56 PM
Quote from: Barefoot Rob on May 22, 2017, 02:27:16 PM
That voltures don't eat there own dead......make's you go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.


:wave

Hate to be a party pooper but they actually do eat dead vultures and dead anything else.

http://birdsflight.com/what-vultures-eat/
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: Queequeg on May 30, 2017, 09:01:37 AM
And in what seems to be a cruel quirk of nature, unlike most other birds, vultures have a keen sense of smell.
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Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: ducktrapper on May 30, 2017, 10:48:51 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 30, 2017, 09:01:37 AM
And in what seems to be a cruel quirk of nature, unlike most other birds, vultures have a keen sense of smell.

Fortunately, dead things smell like t-bone steak and baked potatoes to them.  :laughin:   
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: unclrob on May 30, 2017, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: ducktrapper on May 29, 2017, 07:19:56 PM
Hate to be a party pooper but they actually do eat dead vultures and dead anything else.

http://birdsflight.com/what-vultures-eat/

Not these N.Fla. one's they bypast one of there own for other roadkill for 2 weeks.I past the body for 2 weeks and they never ate it.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: ducktrapper on May 30, 2017, 02:48:40 PM
Quote from: Barefoot Rob on May 30, 2017, 01:07:22 PM
Not these N.Fla. one's they bypast one of there own for other roadkill for 2 weeks.I past the body for 2 weeks and they never ate it.

That's quite scant evidence to base your contention upon, however.  It's like saying because it hasn't rained in the Mojave this year that it hasn't rained anywhere. Like any other animal they probably have preferences. That doesn't mean they would never eat their own.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: broKen on May 30, 2017, 06:28:07 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on May 30, 2017, 09:01:37 AM
And in what seems to be a cruel quirk of nature, unlike most other birds, vultures have a keen sense of smell.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a1/bf/bb/a1bfbbf0e1e35357115a436c16063523.jpg)

Uncanny the way they find carrion. Extreme olfactory sensors
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: mike in lytle on May 30, 2017, 07:00:52 PM
 :donut :donut2 :coffee
Vultures eat their own dead. Vultures down here get killed by cars and become part of the roadside feast they were enjoying.
Down here the vulture competition is the Mexican eagle (crested caracara) which is a big, VERY cool looking falcon which eats roadkill as well as hunting rodents, chickens, snakes, etc.
We have those here. We even have them on the ground out back looking for moles. A mole down here looks like something from a predator movie, and I am not kidding.
Mike
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: Danny on May 31, 2017, 01:17:21 PM
Quote from: mike in lytle on May 30, 2017, 07:00:52 PM
:donut :donut2 :coffee
Vultures eat their own dead. Vultures down here get killed by cars and become part of the roadside feast they were enjoying.
Down here the vulture competition is the Mexican eagle (crested caracara) which is a big, VERY cool looking falcon which eats roadkill as well as hunting rodents, chickens, snakes, etc.
We have those here. We even have them on the ground out back looking for moles. A mole down here looks like something from a predator movie, and I am not kidding.
Mike
Caracara join vultures quite often. I see them all the time. A few days ago the Largest Caracara I've seen killed and ate a large bird in my front yard. Only a few small bones and some large feathers were left behind. He flew away with the carcass after eating some of it. My best guess it was A Road Runner or an owl.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: Danny on May 31, 2017, 01:20:07 PM
Quote from: broKen on May 30, 2017, 06:28:07 PM
Uncanny the way they find carrion. Extreme olfactory sensors
It is very interesting that wild turkeys can't smell a thing. When I'm hunting in camouflage and remain still they walk right in front of me. But their vision and hearing are amazing.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: tlp2 on June 01, 2017, 09:58:29 AM
Down here in FL,  we often see the white headed buzzards (Bald Eagle)
in the roadkill scrum with the regular (Black and Turkey) buzzards as well as Caracara.
:)
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: mike in lytle on June 01, 2017, 11:23:41 AM
Quote from: tlp2 on June 01, 2017, 09:58:29 AM
Down here in FL,  we often see the white headed buzzards (Bald Eagle)
in the roadkill scrum with the regular (Black and Turkey) buzzards as well as Caracara.
:)
:donut :donut2 :coffee
You are one up on me. In my life I do not think I have ever seen a bald eagle.
Mike
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: Danny on June 01, 2017, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: mike in lytle on June 01, 2017, 11:23:41 AM
:donut :donut2 :coffee
You are one up on me. In my life I do not think I have ever seen a bald eagle.
Mike
They are here in Texas. Usually around lakes and high cliffs. When I was in the piney woods, next to lake Livingston. A pair of bald eagles were playing together up in the tall pines. They made beautifull calls to one another and gave us a nice show for about fifteen minutes.
    They do eagle watching boat cruises on Inks Lake. A large gathering of bald eagles make there home in the high cliffs above the lake.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: George on June 01, 2017, 02:01:19 PM
We have a couple of families of Bald Eagle that live near the dam on the lake I live on in East Texas.  We see one on occasion, they are beautiful birds.  We also have many varieties of Hawk that are majestic as well...
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: ducktrapper on June 01, 2017, 04:59:27 PM
If you go to the city dump in Thunder Bay, you will see a hundred or more bald eagles plus a few goldens just hanging around with the million seagulls waiting for the people to leave. The seagulls wait for nothing. Early evening you can see hundreds of them leaving the waterfront on their way to the dump.   
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: mike in lytle on June 01, 2017, 07:05:22 PM
Quote from: ducktrapper on June 01, 2017, 04:59:27 PM
If you go to the city dump in Thunder Bay, you will see a hundred or more bald eagles plus a few goldens just hanging around with the million seagulls waiting for the people to leave. The seagulls wait for nothing. Early evening you can see hundreds of them leaving the waterfront on their way to the dump.    
:donut :donut2 :coffee
Well..... if I were ever to get up there, my main visit purpose would be to meet you and play guitars. The city dump would be a less glorious place to see bald eagles than what I would prefer.
Why are all the people hanging around the city dump? Just curious.
Mike
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: flatlander on June 02, 2017, 12:45:40 AM
Well, are their different kinds of vultures? I retired from communications as in radios and cell towers. Some of the tower owners put up actual dead, stuffed vultures to hang on towers to keep the live ones away. Let the debate go on....
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: Danny on June 02, 2017, 12:48:57 AM
Quote from: flatlander on June 02, 2017, 12:45:40 AM
Well, are their different kinds of vultures? I retired from communications as in radios and cell towers. Some of the tower owners put up actual dead, stuffed vultures to hang on towers to keep the live ones away. Let the debate go on....
the only two actual vultures I'm aware of are Turkey and Black.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: ducktrapper on June 02, 2017, 07:51:34 AM
Quote from: mike in lytle on June 01, 2017, 07:05:22 PM
:donut :donut2 :coffee
Well..... if I were ever to get up there, my main visit purpose would be to meet you and play guitars. The city dump would be a less glorious place to see bald eagles than what I would prefer.
Why are all the people hanging around the city dump? Just curious.
Mike

Heh, well Thunder Bay ain't the most exciting place on earth. Anyway, long line of cars, trucks, garbage trucks etc. entering to dump ... stuff. Employees and equipment. Keeps the eagles in the trees mostly but the seagulls love people. It is quite a sight to see so many bald eagles acting like vultures.   
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: tlp2 on June 02, 2017, 09:08:16 AM
QuoteSome of the tower owners put up actual dead, stuffed vultures to hang on towers to keep the live ones away.

Didn't work for us.  The eco division got a permit to taxidermy (bad usage probably) a roadkill buzzard
and hung it on various buildings where they were trying to discourage roosting.
Buzzard counts before, during, and after were not significantly different.

Note: Buzzards are Federally protected, be careful out there.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: broKen on June 02, 2017, 10:57:15 AM
Quote from: Danny on June 02, 2017, 12:48:57 AM
the only two actual vultures I'm aware of are Turkey and Black.

Is a condor a type of vulture?
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: ducktrapper on June 02, 2017, 11:33:43 AM
Quote from: broKen on June 02, 2017, 10:57:15 AM
Is a condor a type of vulture?

Same family.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: Danny on June 02, 2017, 12:28:11 PM
Quote from: broKen on June 02, 2017, 10:57:15 AM
Is a condor a type of vulture?
Another recent strange discovery is that Storks could be related to vultures. I suppose there are many raptors that seem to be vultures as well.
    But they are more related to hawks, kites, falcons and eagles. And of course some of my favorites are the ravens, crows and magpies.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: broKen on June 02, 2017, 12:40:05 PM
Quote from: Danny on June 02, 2017, 12:28:11 PM
Another recent strange discovery is that Storks could be related to vultures. I suppose there are many raptors that seem to be vultures as well.
    But they are more related to hawks, kites, falcons and eagles. And of course some of my favorites are the ravens, crows and magpies.

Check out what a buzzard is.

My favorite raptor is the  osprey.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: Danny on June 02, 2017, 12:57:28 PM
Quote from: broKen on June 02, 2017, 12:40:05 PM
Check out what a buzzard is.

My favorite raptor is the  osprey.
Old world and new world vultures has a broader inclusion as well.
    In North America we have three vultures, black, turkey and as you pointed out the condor.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: unclrob on June 02, 2017, 04:20:50 PM
DANGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!

You guy's are kinda scaring me with your knowledge of vultures.This started out as a wonder why there was a dead vulture decaying on the side of the road for 3 weeks and non of his fellow vultures were eating it every other dead thing got ate.....




:cop: Could vultures be used to eat zombies.......... :wave
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: ducktrapper on June 02, 2017, 05:30:39 PM
Quote from: Barefoot Rob on June 02, 2017, 04:20:50 PM
DANGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!

You guy's are kinda scaring me with your knowledge of vultures.This started out as a wonder why there was a dead vulture decaying on the side of the road for 3 weeks and non of his fellow vultures were eating it every other dead thing got ate.....




:cop: Could vultures be used to eat zombies.......... :wave

Sure but if the zombie bites the vulture ...  :ohmy:
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: flatlander on June 03, 2017, 08:42:34 PM
Quote from: tlp2 on June 02, 2017, 09:08:16 AM

Note: Buzzards are Federally protected, be careful out there.
They sure aren't rare around these parts! But yes, they do an important job. I think it was India or maybe China I was reading about where they were dying out because of pollution and big spike in disease arose because of it.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: Danny on June 03, 2017, 08:48:15 PM
Around here I used to say, "heh, there's the Tejas sanitation crew at work"

    I have respect for the function vultures provide.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: Queequeg on September 30, 2024, 10:09:19 PM
Quote from: Danny on June 03, 2017, 08:48:15 PMAround here I used to say, "heh, there's the Tejas sanitation crew at work"

    I have respect for the function vultures provide.  :thumbsup
Vultures circled above the I-75 shooter who took his own life in Kentucky earlier in September and helped a couple of bounty hunters find him in the dense forest.
There was a $35,000 reward and it seems they are poised to collect it.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: Silence Dogood on October 01, 2024, 10:25:25 AM
I love old thread resurrections!  Where I live we call them buzzards but I believe they are technically a vulture.  They are large black birds with bald heads that eat dead things.  I even see them in my neighborhood on the streets if the fare is tempting enough.  Saw some just last week one street over from my house in the suburbs. 

Side note: some of the old posters in this thread seem to no longer hang out here. Stuff like that always makes me wonder what happened.  Did they lost interest, pass away, etc.  Most times there is no way to tell in a setting like this.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: Queequeg on October 01, 2024, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: Silence Dogood on October 01, 2024, 10:25:25 AMI love old thread resurrections!  Where I live we call them buzzards but I believe they are technically a vulture.  They are large black birds with bald heads that eat dead things.  I even see them in my neighborhood on the streets if the fare is tempting enough.  Saw some just last week one street over from my house in the suburbs. 

Side note: some of the old posters in this thread seem to no longer hang out here. Stuff like that always makes me wonder what happened.  Did they lost interest, pass away, etc.  Most times there is no way to tell in a setting like this.
Yeah, growing up in Ohio we always referred to them as buzzards, too.
But apparently we were misinformed.

"There are New World vultures, which consist of the Cathartidae family, and there are Old World vultures, which consist of the Accipitridae family. Buzzards, however, are a species of hawk that belong to the Buteo genus. They are predators that go after live prey, not carrion.
So why is there confusion between the two?


The confusion lies in the history of our country. When Europeans arrived in North America, they referred to the birds in the sky using the same name they used back in Europe – namely, buzzards. Buzzard is the term used to describe what we would call hawks in the United States. However, what the colonists actually saw were birds like Black Vultures and Turkey Vultures. So the name stuck, even though it referred to the wrong species of bird."
source (https://obdk.com/blogs/obdk-blog/june-20-buzzards-vultures#:~:text=There%20are%20New%20World%20vultures,consist%20of%20the%20Accipitridae%20family.&text=Buzzards%2C%20however%2C%20are%20a%20species,belong%20to%20the%20Buteo%20genus.&text=They%20are%20predators%20that%20go%20after%20live%20prey%2C%20not%20carrion.)

The radio station we listened to back then:
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Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: unclrob on October 01, 2024, 11:25:27 PM
WOW!!! All these years later WOW!!!

OP of this thread.

Still alive and somewhat well after all these years. :wave
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: StringPicker6 on October 03, 2024, 03:45:03 PM
I have learned so much about vultures from this thread resurrection.

Fun fact: yesterday I saw some buzzards circling around some plastic Martin guitar binding.  :roll
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: teh on October 03, 2024, 07:39:38 PM
StringPicker,

The good news for those buzzards is that the plastic Martin guitar binding won't get stuck in their craw if ingested.
Title: Re: Have you ever noticed
Post by: StringPicker6 on October 03, 2024, 08:29:53 PM
Quote from: teh on October 03, 2024, 07:39:38 PMStringPicker,

The good news for those buzzards is that the plastic Martin guitar binding won't get stuck in their craw if ingested.

That's right! It just falls out!!  :roll