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Title: Bone Saddle With Ust - Problem?
Post by: dberch on February 18, 2005, 11:18:21 PM

I'm thinking of putting a bone saddle on my D-05. It has the B-band UST. Will a bone saddle introduce the possibility of string imalance? Anyone done it with UST?

Thanks!
David

Title: Bone Saddle With Ust - Problem?
Post by: bing4sons on February 18, 2005, 11:42:35 PM

You just have to make sure that the bottom of the saddle is sanded flat, so that it makes contact with the UST the same across all 6 strings.

Title: Bone Saddle With Ust - Problem?
Post by: jwieties on February 19, 2005, 12:36:48 AM

You need to check this out.
http://littlebrother.nlpd.com/ (http://littlebrother.nlpd.com/)
Little Brother swears by it.
-josh

Title: Bone Saddle With Ust - Problem?
Post by: Thig on February 19, 2005, 07:24:09 AM

Exactly what are we looking at. That web site seems to cover a lot of ground.

Mike

Title: Bone Saddle With Ust - Problem?
Post by: ronmac on February 19, 2005, 08:21:11 AM

Under "Tips and Links" go to "Clay Shim Trick".

Ron

Title: Bone Saddle With Ust - Problem?
Post by: jwieties on February 19, 2005, 09:14:37 AM

QuoteExactly what are we looking at. That web site seems to cover a lot of ground.

Mike

Sorry Mike
I meant to post a direct link to the what Ron referred to. Although the entire site is should be checked out. Especially the free lessons.
-josh

Title: Bone Saddle With Ust - Problem?
Post by: dberch on February 19, 2005, 01:31:10 PM

Sorry guys, I should have been more clear. I'm happy with the sound of my UST/AST combo in my D-05. The reason I'm considering bone is to avoid the grooves that strings always cut into the Tusq saddles. It affects tone, especially on the B string where the saddle is much more thin where the sting rests. Grooves can cause string pinch and a rattle similar to having the nut too low. Combine that with the fact that Tusq is softer than bone and the constant wear of changing strings (which I do a lot), can cause some pretty deep grooves.

I've read some places that say bone doesn't transmit vibration as evenly as man-made materials, so string imbalance can occur in a UST application. The plus is acoustic tone will most likely improve a bit.

So, back to my original questions: Have any of you noticed string imablance that was introduced by adding a bone saddle to a guitar equipped with a UST?

Thanks!
David

Title: Bone Saddle With Ust - Problem?
Post by: unclrob on February 19, 2005, 02:34:57 PM

David I've never seen or heard any of problem using a bone saddle.Like everyone has stated just make sure the bottom of the saddle is flat.I use the guitar top to make sure I'm flat bottomed.

Title: Bone Saddle With Ust - Problem?
Post by: dberch on February 19, 2005, 04:54:49 PM

Thanks, all. Sounds like it's a go. Got some research to do on tuners - my D05 tuners are breaking the little white washers. Probably upgrade to Grovers.

Unclrob, Sorry to hear your flat-bottomed. I'm sure there's a doctor on the west coast who can fix that right up. :D

David

Title: Bone Saddle With Ust - Problem?
Post by: JohnM2001 on February 21, 2005, 08:15:56 AM

QuoteUnder "Tips and Links" go to "Clay Shim Trick".

I listened, and the clips with the clay shim did indeed sound better. My question is this: the pics show the clay mod being used with a rigid UST, which is what my Fishman Matrix is. However, my other guitar has a Markley Sweet Spot, which is a flexible metallic tape-like UST with the piezo crystals inside. Will the clay mod work with a flexible UST like this???

Title: Bone Saddle With Ust - Problem?
Post by: dbirchett on February 21, 2005, 11:12:17 AM

QuoteI use the guitar top to make sure I'm flat bottomed.

Dang Rob,

Your guitars must be really strong! ;)

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