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Title: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: FNG on November 07, 2010, 12:25:00 PM
Thinking I want one.   :nana_guitar

Well aware of Larrivee's offerings, but not crazy about the neck width.  Any experience with other builders??
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: tadol on November 07, 2010, 12:36:33 PM
Santa Cruz, Collings, Bourgeois, H&D, just to name a few - It's a popular design, and almost everyone has a take on it.

Sounds like you have something specific you're looking for, but without knowing what, hard to suggest anything more than the names of all the small shop builders -
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: cke on November 07, 2010, 03:04:33 PM
In addition to Tadol's list add Goodall. I have played a Goodall (Spruce/EIR), and both Ditson 111 and 333 (Adi/'hog). Only briefly played an SD 50. All really rich deep and warm sounding, all wide at the nut. I played classicals all my life so the width feels natural to me. The type is modeled on the original Martin dread.
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: dermot on November 08, 2010, 12:03:23 AM
And the folks who invented it...  Martin

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Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: Zohn on November 08, 2010, 12:05:39 AM
Quote from: cke on November 07, 2010, 03:04:33 PM
The type is modeled on the original Martin dread.

Which are still available in the D-18VS in Spruce over hog (Jim Holler has one in stock) and HD-28VS in spruce over rosewood. Their nuts are narrower than the SD Larrivees at 1 3/4".
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: Glennd on November 08, 2010, 05:44:07 AM
If you have the opportunity try Breedlove revival series dread!
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: Queequeg on November 08, 2010, 08:51:48 AM
Quote from: dermot on November 08, 2010, 12:03:23 AM
And the folks who invented it...  Martin

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right. I played a D-35S that I took a shine to a couple of years ago, but it wasn't for sale.
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: jeremy3220 on November 08, 2010, 09:49:24 AM
And most of the companies listed will build whatever neck width you want. I really liked the SCGC one I played.
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: bluesman67 on November 08, 2010, 10:56:29 AM
 :bowdown: Green Mountain Guitars

I have one of his guitars in my hands on loan, it's a cocobolo sloped dread with a soundport, multi-scale, sounds spectacular and the craftsmanship is outstanding.  Glen is building me a 12-fret sloped shoulder dread with Italian spruce and black walnut b/s, scalloped x-bracing, here's a link to the build thread, http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=31383.0

He's got about 900 pics here: http://s88.photobucket.com/albums/k167/gmg_03

His website is www.greenmountainguitars.com

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k167/gmg_03/000_5295.jpg)

Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: sayheyjeff on November 08, 2010, 12:56:48 PM
I believe my Bourgeois 'Alan Simpson' is a cutaway variation on the 12 fret slope D.  Believe my guitar is actually the very one listed at Dream Guitars under previously sold so you can follow the URL to see and hear.  For me it is one great guitar.  Love the sound and the feel, and of course, it is beautiful.  The 1 22/32 took very little getting used to.  I switch back and forth between it and my Martin 00017s which has a 1 3/4 low profile (my favorite).  I would recommend the configuration for anyone.  I play almost exclusively with a pick.  Very versatile guitar. 

jeff

http://www.dreamguitars.com/products/bourgeois/bourgeois_martin_simpson_925/bourgeois_martin_simpson_925.php
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: unclrob on November 08, 2010, 01:34:07 PM
Had a 70's era Alverez come thru the shop 2 weeks ago.Slope dread with a slot headstock 12 fret neck joint.All lamenated but a nice guitar.
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: Zohn on November 08, 2010, 11:58:06 PM
Quote from: sayheyjeff on November 08, 2010, 12:56:48 PM
I believe my Bourgeois 'Alan Simpson' is a cutaway variation on the 12 fret slope D.  Believe my guitar is actually the very one listed at Dream Guitars under previously sold so you can follow the URL to see and hear.  For me it is one great guitar.  Love the sound and the feel, and of course, it is beautiful.  The 1 22/32 took very little getting used to.  I switch back and forth between it and my Martin 00017s which has a 1 3/4 low profile (my favorite).  I would recommend the configuration for anyone.  I play almost exclusively with a pick.  Very versatile guitar. 

jeff

http://www.dreamguitars.com/products/bourgeois/bourgeois_martin_simpson_925/bourgeois_martin_simpson_925.php

Nice guitar Jeff
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: sayheyjeff on November 09, 2010, 09:10:07 PM
Thanks Zohn.  Really do like it. 

jeff
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: teh on November 10, 2010, 06:23:13 AM
I don't like V necks so I asked for and received a quote for a 12 fret slot head rosewood dread (D-35S) through Martin's custom shop and added a bone nut and saddle, Waverly tuners and a sunburst top and was pleasantly surprised at the net price. I am also checking the price on a D-18S with the same specs except in mahogany with a two piece back. Both would have the same low profile 1&3/4 neck as my OM-35 which I love rather than the 1&7/8 neck when this guitar was in regular production. 
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: CF Larrivee on November 10, 2010, 09:00:25 AM
I have a Martin CEO-5, a 12 fret, slop D with a highly figured bearclaw sitka top over Sapele B/S.  1 & 3/4" nut.  For the life of me, I'll never understand why they quit making this guitar.  Just a wonderful instrument, particularly at the price point Martin had this guitar at.  I think about 400 of them were made, but not sure about that.  If you can find one for sale, I would suggest jumping on it.  I think they were produced from about '02 through '05?
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: sayheyjeff on November 10, 2010, 11:23:32 AM
I also thought the couple of CEO-5s I had the opportunity to try out were great guitars.

jeff
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: tuffythepug on November 10, 2010, 02:15:06 PM
Here's an insult you can throw at somebody sometime;  call them a V-necked, slope-shouldered, slothead.   

As you were
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: bluesman67 on November 10, 2010, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: tuffythepug on November 10, 2010, 02:15:06 PM
Here's an insult you can throw at somebody sometime;  call them a V-necked, slope-shouldered, slothead.   

As you were
:roll
...you wide nut, peg headed, jumbo hog!
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: ronmac on November 10, 2010, 04:32:25 PM
A Bourgeois slope in adi and mahogany is a beautiful thing! Very versatile, with a wide dynamic range.  :nice guitar:
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: FNG on November 10, 2010, 07:35:10 PM
Think this one would work?

http://www.collingsguitars.com/gallery/slideshow.php?ID=118

:drool:
Title: Re: Sloped Shouldered 12 fret Dreads...
Post by: SMan on November 10, 2010, 08:29:04 PM
Quote from: FNG on November 10, 2010, 07:35:10 PM
Think this one would work?

http://www.collingsguitars.com/gallery/slideshow.php?ID=118

:drool:

Tasty.  :thumb