Walked into a guitar store today to exchange a defective cable and walked out with this.

(http://toonz.ca/guitars/LSV10Koa/LSV10-Koa-01.jpg)

(http://toonz.ca/guitars/LSV10Koa/LSV10-Koa-02.jpg)

(http://toonz.ca/guitars/LSV10Koa/LSV10-Koa-03.jpg)

(http://toonz.ca/guitars/LSV10Koa/LSV10-Koa-04.jpg)

(http://toonz.ca/guitars/LSV10Koa/LSV10-Koa-05.jpg)

The story is that this is one of a run of 10 from 2000.

They thought it was an L but as soon as I picked it up I knew it was an LS something smaller. I thought it was an LS

The measurements are exactly the same as my LS-05 except that it has the cutaway.

The scale length is 25.5"

Nut is 1 3/4"

Oh yeah - and it's Koa.

I couldn't just leave it there now could I?


edit: - maybe it's not an LS???
edit: - now confirmed - started November 22, 1999 this is an OMV-10KK with Anna on the headstock and vine inlay

Oh my goodness. What an amazing find. Congratulations!

MY.

OH.

MY...







...and it's an OMV body, not an LSV...they didn't start making the LSV until a couple years ago.

But

:nice guitar:  :nice guitar:  :nice guitar:

Kinda plain, dontcha think?  :roll

What a beautiful guitar! Congrats!!

Cheers,

S

Hi Mikeymac,

The upper bout is just barely over 11 inches. I think the OMs are 11.75
Except for the cutaway it is almost identical to my LS.  Strange though - it is just a tiny bit to big to fit in the LS case. We're talking just a little bit.

Quote from: Mikeymac on August 07, 2010, 09:02:24 PM

...and it's an OMV body, not an LSV...they didn't start making the LSV until a couple years ago.

But

:nice guitar:  :nice guitar:  :nice guitar:

I'm puzzled because I thought the OM models had an upper bout of 11 3/4.

Anyway I'll send the serial number off to Larrivée and see what they say.

Some others will pipe in, but it has the 'sharper' or more angular curves of an OM rather than an LS, which has much rounder shoulders (like an L, of course).

Does the tag inside say LS or LSV on it? I'm almost certain that's an OM body with a venetian cutaway, hence an OMV. 

Quote from: Mikeymac on August 07, 2010, 09:22:26 PM
Some others will pipe in, but it has the 'sharper' or more angular curves of an OM rather than an LS, which has much rounder shoulders (like an L, of course).

Does the tag inside say LS or LSV on it? I'm almost certain that's an OM body with a venetian cutaway, hence an OMV. 

No model number on the tag.

More pictures - better shots of the body.

(http://toonz.ca/guitars/LSV10Koa/LSV10-Koa-06.jpg)

No model number on the tag.

(http://toonz.ca/guitars/LSV10Koa/LSV10-Koa-07.jpg)

(http://toonz.ca/guitars/LSV10Koa/LSV10-Koa-08.jpg)

(http://toonz.ca/guitars/LSV10Koa/LSV10-Koa-09.jpg)


I've got to learn how to photograph guitars. These gloss finishes are tough.

Hi Lynda (lyric girl),

Quote from: lyric_girl on August 07, 2010, 09:01:30 PM
Oh my goodness. What an amazing find. Congratulations!

The story I got was there was a run of ten Koa like this in 2000.  Two of each body style and the twins got different headstocks. I think I got that right.

Anyway, this one is right at home with the one in my signature. Oh Oh - maybe I have to edit my signature now.

Stunning!

like WOW stunning....

I'm betting it's a OMV tho... your first OM, and a very nice place to start....

d/

Hi Dermot,

I was never partial to the OM shape. I felt that the upper bout we a little to broad in the shoulders for me but maybe I'm distracted by the vertical striping of the Koa.

Here's proof that two heads are better than one.

(http://toonz.ca/guitars/LSV10Koa/TwoHeads.jpg) 

Quote from: ST on August 07, 2010, 10:01:13 PM
I was never partial to the OM shape. I felt that the upper bout we a little to broad in the shoulders for me but maybe I'm distracted by the vertical striping of the Koa.

Just distracted by the shear blinding beauty... the sum of the parts  is amazing...

I never liked the look of OM's either, but i made an exception for my OM19...

How's it sound?
Any pick-up in it (yet)?
Are you bringing it over to the North Shore next week?
So many questions...
;-)

d/

Hi Mikeymac,

Quote from: Mikeymac on August 07, 2010, 09:02:24 PM
...and it's an OMV body, not an LSV...they didn't start making the LSV until a couple years ago.

But

:nice guitar:  :nice guitar:  :nice guitar:

Just got off the phone with Dermot. I think you're right - this is probably an OM.

I never thought I'd own an OM - but it was impossible to play this and not take it home.

That's beautiful! Thanks for showing us. I'm glad I didn't see it, I just may have had to stoop to thievery.

I need some pills for GAS pains   :roll

Gadzooks  !!!!!!!  

Just the thing for playing some slack key...   :ohmy:  I particularly like the way that koa was used in the headstock inlay.

Geezum.....well, I think I'll go in and exchange a defective cable too now.  :arrow

VERRRRRY  VERRRRRRRRY  CREAMMMMY!!!!

Holy Cow.
Simply lovely.  :nice guitar:
One of Wendy's best headstocks, IMHO. (yeah, I know we're not supposed to say that any more.)
2000, huh? So is that NOS or used?

(BTW, did you remember to exchange your defective cable?)

Hi Queequeg

Quote from: Queequeg on August 08, 2010, 11:22:39 AM
Holy Cow.
Simply lovely.  :nice guitar:
2000, huh?

One of Wendy's best headstocks, IMHO. (yeah, I know we're not supposed to say that any more.)
So is that NOS or used?

(BTW, did you remember to exchange your defective cable?)

Yes, the store cheerfully exchange the defective cable for a new one.

Used but apparently rarely played. zero fret wear that I can see.

yeah, I know we're not supposed to say that any more - what's that about?

There was a 2000 Larrivée catalog in the case. This inlay was one of six new inlays introduced in 2000.

It's called Anna.

Here is what it said in the catalogue.

Traditionally, our inlays have been designed to fit within the silver border that traces the perimeter of the headstock. This is one aspect of the art that differentiates us from many other guitar makers. This year, we're adding yet another twist to the concept with the creation of a limited edition, decorative Vine & Lattice design that will in turn encircle the headstock inlays.


I found the photo below at: http://www.larrivee.com/3_products/inlays/headstockInlays.html

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Here is a photo of the Vine inlay from http://www.larrivee.com/3_products/inlays/fretboardInlays.html


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Yeah, looks like an OM size to me.

How about a full description of the sound?  My first thought would be a "bright" tone. 

It must have grabbed you by the ----- throat and wouldn't let go!   :humour:

Hi Dermot,

Quote from: dermot on August 07, 2010, 10:56:13 PM
Just distracted by the shear blinding beauty... the sum of the parts  is amazing...

I never liked the look of OM's either, but i made an exception for my OM19...

How's it sound?
Any pick-up in it (yet)?
Are you bringing it over to the North Shore next week?
So many questions...
;-)

d/

There is no pickup in it so I took a headset microphone that I wasn't using

(http://toonz.ca/Larrivee/OMV10Koa/EV%20RE97TX.jpg)  

and bent it so that it hooked under the brace just under the end of the neck. Then it swings up under the strings.


(http://toonz.ca/Larrivee/OMV10Koa/OMV10-Koa-12.jpg)  

From the front it almost disappears.

(http://toonz.ca/Larrivee/OMV10Koa/OMV10-Koa-11.jpg)  


(http://toonz.ca/Larrivee/OMV10Koa/OMV10-Koa-13.jpg)

   ST- what an example of Wendy Eye-Candy!! Plus, the Koa is just amazing!! I was comparing the size, which is hard to do unless all is scaled the same, to my OM & LS pics. Almost looks more like an LS, but also like an OM? Stopped the LS in '00, is that correct? Would make sense that this might be one of the last until recently?
   Couldn't happen to a better guy. No mention of about how many peanuts you paid out for it. Feel comfortable giving us a hint? :?
   Here's 2 pics that are pretty similar in size & format. You decide which is closer? An '08 OM-05 & an F-III (LS). Any help? :nice guitar:
     Jeff

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Hi Prof Stack


I just whipped this off with a little youtube camera.
A Cry Out for Love (instrumental version)
(http://toonz.ca/Larrivee/OMV10Koa/OMV10-Koa-14.jpg)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXkWL0KcUGY)
Click the picture to see the video. Headphones recommended.

My hands are really sloppy right now because I've over-played them for the last 24 hours. But enough excuses - I just wanted to give you folks an idea of how it sounds - both acoustically and then with a little amplification.

First minute or so is unamplified.
After a minute I turned on the microphone (you will hear the volume go up a little after the harmonic hit rings for a bit).

It doesn't sound much louder (auto gain control in the camera) but I would be comfortable playing at that level in a room - maybe 1000 square feet.   The microphone is that little beige (alien like) thing in the sound hole.  This is running to a Bose T1® and then Model II. No effects.

The weakest link is the camera. It's one of those mini youtube cameras.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41%2BaCXJaAAL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)   (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00187237W/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=)
--== click the picture to see it in context ==--

Picked this up on sale for about $100 CDN a few weeks ago.

Quote from: prof_stack on August 08, 2010, 12:20:15 PM
Yeah, looks like an OM size to me.

How about a full description of the sound?  My first thought would be a "bright" tone.  

It must have grabbed you by the ----- throat and wouldn't let go!   :humour:

Hey Jeff,

Thanks for joining the conversation.

Quote from: BluesMan1 on August 08, 2010, 01:50:17 PM
  ST- what an example of Wendy Eye-Candy!! Plus, the Koa is just amazing!! I was comparing the size, which is hard to do unless all is scaled the same, to my OM & LS pics. Almost looks more like an LS, but also like an OM? Stopped the LS in '00, is that correct? Would make sense that this might be one of the last until recently?
  Couldn't happen to a better guy. No mention of about how many peanuts you paid out for it. Feel comfortable giving us a hint? :?
  Here's 2 pics that are pretty similar in size & format. You decide which is closer? An '08 OM-05 & an F-III (LS). Any help? :nice guitar:
    Jeff

Thanks for the pictures. It's really hard tell because I shot all my pictures slightly off-angle trying to avoid the flash flare.

I may have measured the upper bout incorrectly. I measured it at the widest point and got just a little over 11 inches. The OMs are supposed to be 11 3/4.  But the cutaway ends just below what would be the widest part of the treble side of the upper bout. So maybe if this was a non-cutaway then it would be wider. It's hard to tell.

There is a picture in the 2000 catalogue that shows where you measure the upper bout and it IS where I measured it. So I don't know. But for that matter, while I'd like to think it is an LS (because I know I like the LS body style) it really doesn't matter unless I have to describe it to someone and I suppose I can just do pictures.

The LS is still listed in the 2000 catalogue as being available through the custom-shop only.  And apparently this run of 10 guitars came out of the custom shop. Anyway - I've written to Larrivée and I'll let you know what they say.

Peanuts? Well, it's okay to ask, but I don't want to publically go on record admitting to how goofy my priorities are. And in a few weeks, after I record the number on the inventory list, I will have forgotten anyway.  

In case anyone is wondering - strings on the video

In the video you are hearing brand new Elixer Phosphor Bronze 80/20 Light Mediums (.012 to.056).

I normally play 11-52 but they didn't have any in the store.

Quote from: ST on August 08, 2010, 02:46:55 PM
First minute or so is unamplified.
After a minute I turned on the microphone (you will hear the volume go up a little after the harmonic hit rings for a bit).

Listening to it through my M-Audio nearfield speakers at work (yea i know it's Sunday)...

It sounds great, and much more pressence when the little mic is in the mix... to be expected i think?

My guess is - it's a keeper...

d

Yah - that's a nice sounding shiny-bits glitzy box!   :bgrin:

Did you have Will Ackermann play in the video?   :humour:   Good chops!

Now ALL my guitars look rather plain and no doubt will now sound that way too... Thanks a lot for posting this - not! I shouldn't have looked;  but you did warn us...  :humour:

Stunning piece. Gotta love Koa too.

  There were some LSV models made that were way before the LSV-11's. They come up once in a great while.
Like a LSV-05.

Hi Prof Stack,

Quote from: prof_stack on August 08, 2010, 06:04:15 PM
Yah - that's a nice sounding shiny-bits glitzy box!   :bgrin:

Did you have Will Ackermann play in the video?   :humour:   Good chops!

Thanks for the compliment. I had never heard of Will Ackerman. Do you mean this Will Ackerman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8B-QPezyqY&feature=related)?

Whoa

Did a set at an open stage event this afternoon.  WOW!~

I used the little microphone  in the soundhole and it was fine - really fine actually. I had a quiet,  attentive audience.  I usually perform standing up but there's no end pin on the Koa so for my solo set I sat down on a bar stool with it.  I just got all rigged up to run wireless with a nice headset microphone and the microphone in the guitar works fine wireless too. So I just pulled the bar stool into the stage area, sat down and started playing and singing. What a difference - NOT to have a microphone and microphone stand in front of me.  That was really nice.

Anyway - back to the guitar. Several old guitar buddies were at the event this afternoon and the new guitar attracted compliments (and ooos and aaaaws) like an emotion magnet.

Just a techie note. I hadn't thought it through but the microphone in the guitar approach doesn't work very well when there are other amplified performers on the stage with me. The microphone picks up the others and things get muddy pretty quick. Fortunately I had brought along another guitar that has pickups in it, so that was fine for when I was accompanying others.

Fun afternoon.

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great playing and a Beautiful Guitar. Nice to see even great players have a passion for the bling!!!!!! Doesn't get nicer than that.

Quote from: ST on August 08, 2010, 10:19:29 PM
Hi Prof Stack,

Thanks for the compliment. I had never heard of Will Ackerman. Do you mean this Will Ackerman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8B-QPezyqY&feature=related)?

Whoa

Yep, that would be him.  I bought two of his albums (remember LP's, 12-inch platter, 33rpm?) in the 70's during my first incarnation as a guitar player.  Still got them somewhere.  He started Windham Hill Records.  Great mellow music.

Wow - nice find ST. Congratulations!

Curious which store was harboring this treasure...and what's happening on the north shore next week?!

Mike

Thanks Mike.  

You know I was thinking about your Forum III but I just had feeling that something that suited me better (like something I could just pick up and play)  might be coming my way.

It was Long & McQuade on Terminal.

They took it in on trade a little while ago. I got the impression that it has just been there for couple of weeks. If you can picture their acoustic guitar room - imagine where the computer / cash register is. I had pulled down an LV to look at  from one of the high guitar holders in the main area where they keep the rentals.  I walked into the acoustic guitar room and handed it to the guy behind the counter because I didn't want to try to put it back up. I was afraid I would drop it.  I noticed that they still had a CA Cargo and I looked at that for a second, then I happened to glance WAAAAY up above the counter and I saw the Koa.  I could barely see the headstock but I thought I recognized the shape. I couldn't really see the inlay on the neck. The angle looking up was too steep.  I asked, "Is that a Larrivée?"

So the fellow brought it down so I could see it. He handed it to me, and that was it. I was done, baked, toast, hooked. It was weird because I don't tend to like dark tops and the vertical figuring wasn't all that appealing to me. But when I felt the neck I was half-way there. I think that the neck felt flatter than my other Larrivées. The neck profile is slightly more like a D than a C if that makes sense.

It was hard to hear in that room because there were people there going half-nuts crazy showing off how fast they could play. (Why do people do that in music stores?)  There were several people in the formal listening room so I just grabbed the guitar and wandered around with it cradled in my arms as I played it. There's no end pin on it so I just kind of tucked it under my arm and played.  

As much as I like the fancy stuff (and I do like fancy stuff), I would normally not have cared for the dark top, and aesthetically I have been challenged when it came to OMs, and I really prefer the sharp look of a Florentine cutaway (vs. Venetian).  But the guitar felt really good. Even though the strings were dead,   heavier gauge than I prefer,  there was more relief in the neck than I like, and the intonation was a little sharp (which made sense considering the relief) - I still liked it.  It felt good, It sounded good and shiny or not - I like the human figures that Larrivée had on the headstocks.  

The fellow said that it was an "L". I was certain that it was not. We talked about it for a bit and got into a discussion about how special it was.  I had several other errands to run yesterday but I was pretty sure I would be back for it. As I was leaving the fellow behind the counter rushed out to the parking lot and called to me across the lot as I was getting in the car. "So do you want me to hold it for you?"  I said, "Yes, I'll be back in an hour."  I ran off, did my errands and headed back.  On my way back I phoned and asked them to put new strings on it and to look at the relief. By the time I got there, they were re-stringing it. Half an hour after that - I was on my way home with it.  

Sorry Mike, I missed this

Quote from: Vancouver Southpaw on August 09, 2010, 12:38:25 AM
Wow - nice find ST. Congratulations!

Curious which store was harboring this treasure...and what's happening on the north shore next week?!

Mike

Actually - the North Shore thing was the open stage event I mentioned a few posts up (http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=33338.msg306251#msg306251).

It's the second Sunday of the month, 3-6 pm
Royal Canadian Legion 118 (http://www.legion118.com/)
123 West 15th Street
North Vancouver, BC, V7M 1R7

Lounge: 604-985-1115
Office: 604-988-3712

If you are thinking of going - call ahead to confirm that "the Jam is on".

It's hosted by an old buddy (Alan) and I like to go if I can to be supportive.

    I found these posts regarding LSV models;

                " 2001 Larrivee LSV-05 Limited Edition - Only 100 Made" (in FOR SALE)

             "If it is from 2001, then it is Poly." from Matthew Larrivee re: a 2001 LSV-05

                    So this could be an LSV.  Could someone copy and paste this for ST?

(I think he hit the ignore button on me a while back about a "cat in a case" :blush:)

Hi Danny

Quote from: dependan on August 09, 2010, 04:35:10 AM
    I found these posts regarding LSV models;

                " 2001 Larrivee LSV-05 Limited Edition - Only 100 Made" (in FOR SALE)

             "If it is from 2001, then it is Poly." from Matthew Larrivee re: a 2001 LSV-05

                    So this could be an LSV.  Could someone copy and paste this for ST?

(I think he hit the ignore button on me a while back about a "cat in a case" :blush:)

Thanks for this - I can see you just fine!

   Cool ; nice guitar for sure and a great story about going into Long and McQuade. I think that's the one I went to when we were in Vancouver. Down close to the bus station. Y'all have nicer shops than we do.

Hi again Danny,

Thank you for both of these posts. When I saw the first one I went off on a search to find what I could about the early LSVs. I wasn't ignoring you. I was reading through the hard copy catalog (2000 catalog that came with the guitar in the case) pouring over the details. But I couldn't find anything to help me to conclusively identify the guitar as any particular model.

There are a couple of pictures of a koa on koa that looks very similar to mine. The difference is that it has a different headstock. But the pictures do not identify the model.

Quote from: dependan on August 08, 2010, 10:14:30 PM
  There were some LSV models made that were way before the LSV-11's. They come up once in a great while.
Like a LSV-05.

Quote from: dependan on August 09, 2010, 04:35:10 AM
    I found these posts regarding LSV models;

                " 2001 Larrivee LSV-05 Limited Edition - Only 100 Made" (in FOR SALE)

             "If it is from 2001, then it is Poly." from Matthew Larrivee re: a 2001 LSV-05

                    So this could be an LSV.  Could someone copy and paste this for ST?

(I think he hit the ignore button on me a while back about a "cat in a case" :blush:)

That's the very same store Danny. It's across the street (kind of), about 200 yards away.

Quote from: dependan on August 09, 2010, 04:54:36 AM
  Cool ; nice guitar for sure and a great story about going into Long and McQuade. I think that's the one I went to when we were in Vancouver. Down close to the bus station. Y'all have nicer shops than we do.

That's an interesting store. The staff turnover seems very low. I can walk in there most days and see three or four people that I've known as staff there for going on twenty years. And the new generation of young familiar faces - well most of them seem to have been there for at least five. There are a couple of fellows who retired recently who had been there for at least 35 years. That seems pretty unusual for the musical instrument retail business.

I'm glad you got to see the place. I try to avoid it unless I really need something because when I cross their threshold $tuff happen$.

 :roll    Yup, stuff happens. If I was around shops like that I know I would be broke.

Quote from: ST on August 08, 2010, 02:46:55 PM
Hi Prof Stack


I just whipped this off with a little youtube camera.
A Cry Out for Love (instrumental version)
(http://toonz.ca/Larrivee/OMV10Koa/OMV10-Koa-14.jpg)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXkWL0KcUGY)
Click the picture to see the video. Headphones recommended.

My hands are really sloppy right now because I've over-played them for the last 24 hours. But enough excuses - I just wanted to give you folks an idea of how it sounds - both acoustically and then with a little amplification.

First minute or so is unamplified.
After a minute I turned on the microphone (you will hear the volume go up a little after the harmonic hit rings for a bit).

It doesn't sound much louder (auto gain control in the camera) but I would be comfortable playing at that level in a room - maybe 1000 square feet.   The microphone is that little beige (alien like) thing in the sound hole.  This is running to a Bose T1® and then Model II. No effects.

Really nice.  I enjoyed "16 tons" and "Invitation To The Blues" as well.

Hi Danny,

I found the post you mentioned and a few more that rekindled my thought that this might be an LSV. In particular this one.

Quote from: Feste on May 27, 2006, 08:49:32 AM
To be honest. I don't know if Larrivee will make an LSV-05 as a special order, but 12th Fret quoted me a price awhile back so I think that means they will.  I think the LSV-11's are Larrivee's main focus now.
I am in the US (US$).
I have not played the LSV-11 but I think they have increased the nut size to 1 13/16" and of course it has rosewood back and sides. The 05 has a 1/3/4"nut with mahogany B&S.
The dimesnions are  as follows:


   * 15" lower bout
   * 11" upper bout
   * 9 3/4" waist
   * 4" depth (4 1/4" depth at end pin)

The dimensions on mine are about the same.
   * 15" lower bout
   * 11" upper bout
   * 9 3/4" waist (I measure 9 1/2" for the waist)
   * 4" depth (4 1/4" depth at end pin)

Also - the case is a little loose. It could certainly accommodate an OM
OM Dimensions
   * 15 1/4" lower bout
   * 11 3/4 " upper bout
   * 9 1/2"
   * 4 1/4" depth at end pin

But I have easily 3/4" air space at the upper bout.

   Having owned two LSV-11's I can tell you that the sizes do vary. My first one was the original LS size. But the later model was almost exactly the size of an OMV. Only the upper bout was different.
  After discovering that I went to our local Larrivee dealer and measured some OM models and found that they do vary in size. This is due to the "hands on" part of the build process. So you may have a small OMV or a LSV. Or maybe a prototype that led to the LSV. Yours is a 2000 and the earliest reference to a LSV I have seen is 2001.
   The shape of the full side on the upper bout looks a bit more like an OM, but your sizes are closer to a LSV.

              Either way it is a ST guitar all the way!

That has to be one of the nicest Larrivee guitars that I have ever seen. I have been wanting an LV-10e because I wanted something ornate but your koa guitar has considerably raised the bling bar for me.  :nice guitar: 

That's one showy Larry, there's no denying!  The koa is beautiful. :beer

Quote from: ST on August 07, 2010, 09:36:39 PM

I've got to learn how to photograph guitars. These gloss finishes are tough.

ST,  Wow.  Beautiful guitar and beautiful playing.   Congratulations on a great find.  It's a stunner no matter what model it turns out to be.

Regarding photographing guitars;   flash on a glossy surface hardly ever turns out very well.   Your best bet is to take the guitar outdoors and shoot it in diffused light;   not direct sunlight.   a slightly overcast or cloudy day is good.   Or in the shade where there is ample ambient light.    Indoors you need to place it in an area where it can receive diffused light through a window shade or something similar.  You can hang a white sheet over a window to get some diffusion;  then use a tripod and a self-timer on your camera if necessary.     A beautiful guitar like that deserves the effort to get a great shot.
The pics you posted are good but you need to eliminate the glare as you said.    Get one perfect shot and you've got a future GOTM  I  think it's safe to say.

:cheers   :thumb

T the P

   Lynn, you forgot the tape over the flash (if possible?), as you had once told me? All good suggestions, me experimenting with all you said! Gloss? A challenge, to say the least? Diffusing the flash (bouncing?) seems to work well with my go-to '90 Olympus IS-3 DLX, 35 mm, but still takes amazing pics.
   When using my diffuser, aiming the G-40 flash upwards, I have NO problem with glare on the gloss. Works well with blue-eye reduction too!! :thumbsup
     Jeff

Quote from: BluesMan1 on August 09, 2010, 01:01:29 PM
   Lynn, you forgot the tape over the flash (if possible?), as you had once told me? All good suggestions, me experimenting with all you said! Gloss? A challenge, to say the least? Diffusing the flash (bouncing?) seems to work well with my go-to '90 Olympus IS-3 DLX, 35 mm, but still takes amazing pics.
   When using my diffuser, aiming the G-40 flash upwards, I have NO problem with glare on the gloss. Works well with blue-eye reduction too!! :thumbsup
     Jeff

Jeff, I did, indeed, forget to mention the Scotch tape over the flash for diffusion of the light.    Bouncing the flash is great too but it requires that the photographer have a separate flash head that can be pointed at the ceiling or wall.  Most people don't use separate flash heads these days and they simply rely on the built-in flash of the camera so my suggestions were mainly for controlling existing light conditions in other ways.    Thanks for the reminder, however.


Lynn

Pardon my language, but holy -CENSORED-  :nice guitar:

Wow.  Seriously beautiful.

I showed it to John Jr. today. It's definitely an OMV-10KK made in November 1999.  (Thanks to Mike at Larrivée for looking up the date).

While I was waiting for John I noticed that the pictures in the waiting area are of the twin of mine. The distinguishing differences - the one in the picture was probably an L and it had a different headstock inlay (from the same series though). These are the same pictures that appeared in the 2000 Catalogue.


It was brighter at my place today so I managed to get these without using a flash.

(http://toonz.ca/Larrivee/OMV10Koa/OMV10kk02.jpg)

(http://toonz.ca/Larrivee/OMV10Koa/OMV10kk03.jpg)

(http://toonz.ca/Larrivee/OMV10Koa/OMV10kk05.jpg)

I hope this gives you a better sense of the colour. (Thanks for the photo tips Lynn and Jeff)

Hi Randy,

What year is your Larrivee LV-10koa with the Emily inlay (http://randyrick.us/guitars/LarriveeLV10k.htm)?

Do you know the name of the inlay on the 30th Anniversary C10 Brazilian?

Quote from: ST on August 11, 2010, 01:59:59 AM
Hi Randy,

What year is your Larrivee LV-10koa with the Emily inlay (http://randyrick.us/guitars/LarriveeLV10k.htm)?

Do you know the name of the inlay on the 30th Anniversary C10 Brazilian?

My LV10-k is serial # 46813. Guess I need to get off my duff and send my serial numbers to Larrivee so they can be added to your database.

I've heard the 30th Anniv headstock called Lady in the Mirror, I'm not sure thats the official name though.

Hi Randy,

That serial number could well be in the 2000.

Lady in the Mirror makes sense but I think most of the other human figures have names.

Here is what Luke at Larrivée said to me about the C10 Brazilian.

Quote
The 30 year anniversary model is absolutely stunning!

It is built using Brazilian Rosewood back and sides, Mahogany neck and a Sitka Spruce top.

The Vine Inlay on the fingerboard is one of a kind, only used on the 30 year model and never used since.

The headstock inlay was also a big part of the guitar, besides being absolutely beautiful it had a lot of meaning for where Larrivee was at that time.  The lady in the mirror looking back represented us looking back over the past 30 years of guitar building.  

Luke

I've barely been able to put this guitar down since I got it on Saturday.
My hands are killing me.

I took it down to the Larrivée factory yesterday to show it to John Jr.  On the way back I dropped in at a local repair person who used to work at Larrivée. She looked at it closely and said  that she had worked on it when it was being built. She did a couple of quick tweaks and it is now even more playable than when it I got it home on Saturday.

She also set up my LS-05 - and that thing is incredible to play. If there was ever a reason to let your setup person watch you play - this is it. She watched me play for a couple of minutes, nodded her head and said, "I know what you need." When I picked it up later it was perfect for my style of playing.  She told me what she could do with the OMV-10KK (frets, nut, saddle) to make it even better. I'll probably give it to her when I'm ready to let it out of my hands for awhile but in the meantime - I'm okay with it.

I finally got around to comparing the OMV-10KK (the new one) to some of the others around here. I had not realized it but the other guitars feel quite heavy in comparison. I don't have a scale accurate enough to tell you exactly how much lighter it is, but I realize now why it feels a little neck heavy. I know, I know... you're thinking it's all the inlay. I'm pretty sure that it's because the body is lighter than the others - even the LS-05.  I'm not surprised that it is ligher than the C10 Brazilian or J10.

Maybe when my hands recover, I'll do some quick recordings.

When I was talking with Dermot about it, he asked me if this was going to a gigging guitar or if it would sit on the couch. This is definitely going to be getting lots of time on stage - even though it looks outstanding on the couch.

 simply beautiful. Thank God for the defective cable! :nice guitar:

I needed to comment on this guitar but after setting up the page I find I am speechless.  It is so beautiful it just can sit there and speak for itself. Happy for you, but also very jealous. It is a masterpiece by the very definition of the word.  Enjoy it.  docrach

In case you aren't watching the dread head thread...

Quote from: Walkerman on August 11, 2010, 04:22:01 PM
Out of all my Larrys...only one is a dread.....


(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/travette/DSC_0128.jpg)

Hi Randy,

Thanks for posting this picture.

My guess is that this is a sister to mine. I guess I'm going to have to get a picture outside to get a better sense of the colours to compare them.

I put a couple of recordings on reverbnation.



OMV-10kk sample 01 (Tractor) (http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4863459?play_now=true)
LS-05 sample (Tractor) (http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4863482?play_now=true)

Same song - same settings - headphones recommended.

Sorry that the level is so low - I'm just figuring out how to make all this happen.

I chose this song because it allows me to do several different kinds of playing (picking, strumming).

Drop - D (so you could really hear the bottom)
Bare fingers with with a little bit of nail at the ends.

Microphone on guitar - AKG C451 E about 6" from the guitar aimed at the point where the neck meets the body (14th fret) - no effects
Vocal microphone - Neuman KMS 105
Background percussion is a PorchBoard

Two more recordings.

This song, Since I Met You has lyrics but I just did an instrumental version so you could hear the guitars.

OMV-10kk sample 02 (Since I) (http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4864319?play_now=true)
Morgan sample 02 (Since I) (http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4864337?play_now=true)

The Morgan is Maple back and sides with a Spruce top.


Microphone on guitar - Neumann KM 184 about 6" from the guitar aimed at the point where the neck meets the body (14th fret) - no effects

Background percussion is a PorchBoard (way back)

There are moments when I am almost pleased with what I do with a guitar.

Then I listen to someone like you and think maybe I should just hang my Larri's up as wall art.  :whistling:

Great stuff ST  :cheers  :guitar

Quote from: ST on August 11, 2010, 11:49:39 PM
Hi Randy,

Thanks for posting this picture.

My guess is that this is a sister to mine. I guess I'm going to have to get a picture outside to get a better sense of the colours to compare them.

It is a custom order...my 1st Larrivee.

Thanks Chris,

I'm glad you enjoyed the clips.

I really prefer to be playing live in front of real people. I just don't have the temperament to sit alone in front of microphones and recording software trying to get everything right.  So the recordings are full or warts and thuds.

The reason I did these was to let folks hear the differences in the guitars. Could you hear those differences?

One thing I noticed is that I'm much more comfortable playing the LS-05 and the Morgan. I'm still trying to figure out the OMV-10kk so I'm a little more tentative with it. I think that may explain why the volume is lower on the cuts with the OMV-10kk. Or it could just be that the guitar is inherently quieter than the other two.

Anyway - I noticed that it is a lot easier to switch between and compare the clips if you go to
my page on Reverbnation (http://www.reverbnation.com/shadowtoonz)
and then you can see all the songs and click to switch back and forth between them.

  Just got a chance to hear the new ones. You are right the Koa is quieter. But it is a good sound. I think you did a good job on the recording as well.

                "The audience is listening :winkin:"

Quote from: dependan on August 12, 2010, 01:56:33 PM
  Just got a chance to hear the new ones. You are right the Koa is quieter. But it is a good sound. I think you did a good job on the recording as well.

                "The audience is listening :winkin:"

Yep. But I chock it up more to the vagaries of recording and your explanation. Definitely I hear the differences. And the recordings are better than you think   :wink:

Last one for now I think.

Warning - this one is louder than the others.


A Cry Out for Love (OMV-10KK) (http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4865882?play_now=true)

A Cry Out for Love (C10 Brazilian) (http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4866689?play_now=true)  (edit - just added this one)

This is the same tune I put up on youtube a couple of days ago. I thought you might like to hear the lyrics.

As I listen to this, I'm thinking that I should give it just a little relief in the neck.  And it seems that this guitar really likes to be strummed especially in the chorus.

    The audience applauds :thumbsup

  This time it reminded me of a maple/spruce Jumbo GIBSON. This is a first for me. I never heard a Larrivee that reminded me of a Gibby. I like good Gibsons and know one when I hear it. The SJ-200 is a favorite of mine though my shoulders won't allow me to play one.


   Anyway, in the middle of your playing "From the beginning" by Greg Lake came to mind. I know he played a J-200 or a custom Gibson maple/spruce.

   Do you know that song ST? It would be way cool to here it played on this guitar. Sorry if this comparison bothers you, I hope not the SJ-200 is a fine instrument in many peoples view and been the backbone of many a group going back 50+ years.

               Nice to hear the lyrics to A cry out for love as well. I played your earliest posts for my wife and I'll show her these as well when she gets back.  Thanks for the nice "interlude" to work. :+1:

Hi Danny,

Thank you.

I just did this quick rendition of the same song done with my C10-Brazilian (obviously in need of new strings)

A Cry Out for Love (C10 Brazilian) (http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4866689?play_now=true)


With regard to Greg Lake - I don't know the song you mean, but the comparison doesn't bother me in the least.

It's funny that you should mention a Gibson J200. When I heard the strummed passage in the chorus near the end of the OMV-10kk version (http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4865882?play_now=true) I thought - wow - that sounds really nice strummed and I remembered my Gibson J200.

I had that J200 for a couple of years. I really liked it but never felt that it sounded quite right for (my) finger-style approach to playing. I did think it was outstanding as a strummer. I eventually sold it a duo partner who does a lot of solo performing too. He really makes that guitar shine as he strums and sings.  

Thanks for talking to me about this Danny.

and I hope your wife enjoys the music.

Just for you and the Missus.

Here's   A Little Waltz on the OMV-10KK (http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_details/4867717?play_now=true)

   We are listening together right now.  Thanks for such a nice tune we both like it a lot.

btw Greg Lake was with "Emmerson, Lake and Palmer". He's the good guitar player you hear on their tunes.

I'm glad you liked the little waltz.  I imagined you and your wife gliding around the floor.

Thanks for the reminder about Greg Lake. That led to an interesting journey down memory lane on youtube.

I just this moment caught that "From the Beginning" was the name of a song and I've just been off on another quest to find recordings of it. Now I can say...

Your comment about having that song come to mind as you were listening -- well now that I get it I'm really (pleasantly) taken aback.

Since I intended to give you guys the unvarnished sound of the guitars - I didn't use any effects. It is really interesting that you would get that Greg Lake vibe from dry tracks. I think it says a lot about the guitar.  But we're back to that kind of strange gibberish that people get into when trying to describe the sound of a guitar. How do you describe magic?

I don't use any effects when I perform live, but there's always some natural reverb in the room.  Since I recorded with the microphones in very close proximity (guitar 6 inches  and vocal 1/2 an inch) there was no room ambience in the recordings.  If I get into doing more recording - I'll have to get to know a lot more about recording techniques and effects.

Anyway - thanks again Danny. I enjoyed meeting and talking to you when you were in  Vancouver last year. It feels as though we're just continuing the conversation.

I thought you would remember who Greg Lake was.  The wife was making dinner as we listened but I set it up through speakers and we listened a couple of times. It is a very pleasant tune. We also listened to the other tracks as well. I'd like to download some of them if it's OK with you.
                          Also I did post a SHARE on Facebook that links to your Reverb site. Is that OK by you?

"Anyway - thanks again Danny. I enjoyed meeting and talking to you when you were in  Vancouver last year. It feels as though we're just continuing the conversation".  
                                                                 DITTO

Hi Danny,

Thanks for the Facebook share - I'm not sure what that means exactly, but I'm exploring more of these social media connections.

These recordings are pretty raw since my priority was to give you guys an unvarnished impression of the guitar. I'm working on learning more about recording techniques. Until I learn how to produce more polished recordings, I'd like to leave these as "stream only".

I realized that the recordings should be in Technique and Playing section of the Forum. I've just posted a song there.

The Tractor Song (http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=33428.0)

edit - more:

A Cry Out for Love (http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=33430.0)

Hi Walkerman,

Quote from: Walkerman on August 12, 2010, 12:54:09 PM
It is a custom order...my 1st Larrivee.

What year is this?

What model designation?

I have to say, I saw this a couple of days ago and thought, "This has got to be one of the most gorgeous examples of, well, anything I have ever seen."  Congrats on the acquisition, absolutely stunning piece of work.  Sounds great too, keep up the good work.

I may have found a solution for a pickup system.

I have written about it here.

c-ducer capacitive transducer (tape microphone)

(http://toonz.ca/guitars/c-ducer/c-ducer-OMV02.jpg)
(http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=33480.msg307488#msg307488)

Click the picture to read all about it.

Ended up moving the C-ducer above the bridge.

(http://toonz.ca/guitars/c-ducer/c-ducer-OMV04.jpg) (http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=33480.msg307547#msg307547)
--== click the picture to read all about it ==--

Test recordings here (http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=33480.msg307637#msg307637)

Hey ST 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140444774000


Looks like a cousin to yours

From the serial number - it's probably a sibling. Probably made in the same month.  I like the florentine cutaway. I wonder how it sounds.

 I just recently picked up their second cousin - I'm very, very happy - no bling, but there is still a resemblance -

I'll put it on other makers once I get some pics of my own.

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  ST I saw your guitar in a large hardbound book from 2003 that I have ''ACOUSTIC GUITARS" The new Illustrated Encyclopedia.   It's on page 150, a small pic in the lower left. But it clearly catches the eye.

Hi Tadol,

Quote from: tadol on August 26, 2010, 02:15:22 AM
I just recently picked up their second cousin - I'm very, very happy - no bling, but there is still a resemblance -

I'll put it on other makers once I get some pics of my own.

That's a beauty for sure.

I'm still trying to get my head around the interest in smaller guitars but the proportions are gorgeous.

Hi Danny,

Quote from: dependan on August 26, 2010, 10:47:03 AM
  ST I saw your guitar in a large hardbound book from 2003 that I have ''ACOUSTIC GUITARS" The new Illustrated Encyclopedia.   It's on page 150, a small pic in the lower left. But it clearly catches the eye.

Was there a caption with the picture? Any details or discussion of it?

Quote from: ST on August 26, 2010, 10:57:41 AM
Hi Danny,

Was there a caption with the picture? Any details or discussion of it?

Just a general statement about the high end inlay on Larrivees etc.

ST,

Had the new LR Baggs Anthem pick up put into my OM-03 MT, not only is it amazing sound-wise, but you don't have to put any holes in that beautiful Koa wood! Played out last night and after my set the guy after me had a guitar that wasn't behaving, so the sound guy asked if he could play mine. First time I'd heard it plugged in from the audience point of view...it sounded so freaking beautiful! Sound guy was raving, the guy running the night asked if it was the guitar or the pick-up that made it sound so good...I said yes.

No idea if you are even looking for a pick-up, just thought I'd share.

Cheers,

S

Quote from: ST on August 26, 2010, 10:57:41 AM
Hi Danny,

Was there a caption with the picture? Any details or discussion of it?

I have that book at home, guess i'm gonna take a peek tonight...

;-)

d/
edited to add...
from Acoustic Guitars, published in Canada by ThunderBay Press - at the bottom of Pg 150, under a photo that seems to be your OMV10KK;

QuoteLARRIVEE PUBLICITY
These promo's emphasise the more elaborate side of this Canadian maker's approach, and the catalogue pages here show intricate abalone inlays and a highly figured Koa top

So it looks like your guitar was a literaly the poster child... you NEED to get one of those catalogue's to throw in the case...

Hey Dermot,

I have the catalog. I'll show you next time we connect. You'll have to bring the book - okay?

Danny - thanks for the heads-up.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3381/3493571066_aa471c9e07.jpg)

New recordings of this guitar (and others for comparison)

Sony Camera Test 1/3 and checking out various guitars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmjORzysla4)

Sony Camera Test 2/3 and checking out various guitars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDWBERti5AI)

Sony Camera Test 3/3 - In the Company of Others (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB_A0e9dmRU)

Wow.  Freaking gorgeous.  I so wish I was right handed some days.   :crying:  :nice guitar:  :nice guitar: