My dad bought an old guitar from a lady who's husband passed away. He said their are not markings on it anywhere that identify what it is except this symbol inside the sound hole. Anyone know anything about it? I don't think it's anything special. Just curious really. Thanks in advance for any help.
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A few pictures of it:
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What is on the face side of the head stock? Show us a pic of that if you can.
Using a very bright light shined in the sound hole see if you see some faded ink left from a stamp mark.
It may be like F68 or S65 etc. plus it may say Made in USA, again this may be very faded. If you see that it is a Harmony Guitar product made in Chicago for any number of Brand name guitars or catalog stores. The screw on pick guard and the screwed down bridge are two items Harmony used. Feel inside under the brige and screws are probably under the MOP dots on the bridge.
Also the Japanese began to copy Harmony and made similar guitars with different brands on the headstock. Ventura made one with the same bridge as you have and the same shape in the headstock. So if you don't see the faded ink stamp inside that would be my 2cnd guess. A early 70's Japanese made guitar. And probably built very solid.
I think it is a Ventura the more I look at the headstock shape and the bridge. An early 70's Made in Japan Laminate guitar.
Thank you for replying!
From what he told me, there is nothing on the front of the head stock or he would have taken a picture of it. Other than where the guy carved his initials, he said that symbol was the only mark on the guitar.
Well, see if you can get a shot of the headstock and the neck joint to the body. Both of those can help a little.
I will ask him and post up. Thanks again!
These were called "lawsuit guitars" and a number were made by different companies in Japan. They were duplicating Martin D-series guitars. Ibinez, Aria, and others made them. So some folks took the logo's off the headstock. I guess it made them look more like a Martin if they didn't say Ventura etc.on them.
Quote from: dependan on March 03, 2010, 12:50:09 AM
These were called "lawsuit guitars" and a number were made by different companies in Japan. They were duplicating Martin D-series guitars. Ibinez, Aria, and others made them. So some folks took the logo's off the headstock. I guess it made them look more like a Martin if they didn't say Ventura etc.on them.
Not too sure about this being among the "lawsuit" models - the lore on that has been stretched pretty far.
Quote from: cc407 on March 03, 2010, 08:20:44 AM
Not too sure about this being among the "lawsuit" models - the lore on that has been stretched pretty far.
Yep
Quote from: cc407 on March 03, 2010, 08:20:44 AM
Not too sure about this being among the "lawsuit" models - the lore on that has been stretched pretty far.
Well, we're not "sure" of anything on this one yet. That's why the OP has asked for some information.
Quote from: dependan on March 03, 2010, 09:04:27 AM
Well, we're not "sure" of anything on this one yet. That's why the OP has asked for some information.
I provided some information, by correcting misinformation.
Quote from: cc407 on March 03, 2010, 09:13:10 AM
I provided some information, by correcting misinformation.
OK, getting back to the point of the OP's question and because I don't really care at all about "lawsuit" guitars. I'll phrase it this way to be more helpful.
This dreadnaught appears to be a Ventura (Bruno) or Aria etc. from the early 70's, made in Japan and resembles a Martin, which some who did this were involved in a lawsuit with Martin and then those guitars have been called "lawsuit" guitars. I have heard it mostly referred to Takimine and Yamaha. But also to Ibanez and others.
At any rate it looks like a Martin copy from the early 70's made in Japan.
Very interesting! Never heard of "lawsuit" guitars. But the no logos would make sense. Hopefully I'll get a reply from my Dad in the next day or so and get some more pictures.
The "Lawsuit Guitars" term has been used for the guitars that Danny mentioned as well as some Ibanez versions of earlier Gibson Les Paul electrics. Probably others are referred to in this manner too when they are exact copies of a design originated by another company. I believe some were actually involved in litigation that earned the moniker 'lawsuit" guitar.
And as one poster pointed out the term is sometimes used loosely accrediting a value to an otherwise less valued guitar. Most of the big names were victims of being copied tho some of the lawsuit guitars ( copies) were actually argueably better than what they were intended to copy.
I perhaps should have expounded - so many guitars are talked of as "lawsuit" models, usually as a come-on for a used guitar sale. Ebay even posts a warning about this! The fact is that the actual lawsuit guitars are really few, but the internet has supplied people with a false impression.
This one does not appear to be one of those, and I didn't want the inquirer to have a false hope of value based on this.
Can we say ... SATAN? Run for your life! :laughin:
Wow, from identifying a guitar, to lawsuits and now Satan. All from trying to help a newbie out.
Odd for a forum thread to take diversion :humour:
LOL! It's all good. Newbie to this forum but been on forums since there were forums. Playing guitar is actually my second love. This is my first love and the cause of me not being able to play for about four months after I crashed. Now this is a topic change.
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Maybe we need a few more :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2
There are quite a few here that ride bikes. I use to, but it was long distance riding on BMW touring bikes. I had three bikes right before I got married. Two BMW tour bikes and a Virago.
Don't have any now, but I found a mirror off the Virago in the garage today and started thinking that another touring bike would be nice.
Quote from: dependan on March 03, 2010, 11:07:37 PM
There are quite a few here that ride bikes. I use to, but it was long distance riding on BMW touring bikes. I had three bikes right before I got married. Two BMW tour bikes and a Virago.
Don't have any now, but I found a mirror off the Virago in the garage today and started thinking that another touring bike would be nice.
That's awesome! I'm strictly sportbikes, street and track. Believe it or not, I do want a new Goldwing but I don't have any room for it. :rolleye:
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My Dad sent me the pictures I requested. Not sure if they help or not.
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The headstock may of had a simple decal on it which could have been removed easily. The neck is not a bolt on so that rules out some makers. But it still appears to be a Japanese or possibly Korean made early 70's Martin copy. Almost all the Japanese builders made a Martin and sometimes a Gibson copy during the early to mid 70's. Some of the higher end models were worth a lot. But most are medium to good quality from that era and not worth a lot. Good players can be found from that deluge of Asian guitars flooding the U.S. market.
There is a slight possibility that it could be an Asian Harmony as well. In 1975 I believe Harmony ceased operations in the U.S. and they were continued somewhere in Asia for a few years. At one point Harmony made more guitars than ALL the other makers put together. They are still in peoples closets and under the bed waiting to be discovered again and in need of a neck reset.
Quote from: dependan on March 03, 2010, 11:07:37 PM
There are quite a few here that ride bikes. I use to, but it was long distance riding on BMW touring bikes. I had three bikes right before I got married. Two BMW tour bikes and a Virago.
Don't have any now, but I found a mirror off the Virago in the garage today and started thinking that another touring bike would be nice.
So you're gonna start with the mirror, and build the bike out from there? I like it.
But a pleasant diversion indeed!!! Great photo, very nice wheels!!! :thumb :thumb :thumb
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Quote from: flatlander on March 04, 2010, 06:49:37 AM
So you're gonna start with the mirror, and build the bike out from there? I like it.
Matt that's the idea! The Virago was a low slung V-twin with nothing that identified it on the tank or sides. It was black and chrome. It looked like a small Harley and other bikers would always ask me what it was. It only said Yamaha on a cover plate low on the motor and it was stamped in the metal. I can't remember why I took one mirror off, but it said Yamaha in raised casting letters, so that may have been why. I liked it being a bit of a mystery.
Actually I was thinking of removing the glass mirror from the casing to slip in the soundholes of guitars for repair work, it's just the right size. Besides I want a big bimmer touring bike with a faring and saddle bags for some "iron butt" rides out "Across the great divide" :thumbsup
it looks like any one of the dozens of MIJ brands that show up on line in Japan, precisely when it was made is anybody`s guess...by the mid `60s LOTS of makers over here were using laminated wood for lower end stuff, by the `70s there were just too many to count, I thought about saving all the names of the different brands I came across on the web but after 50 or so I just gave up...there was no shortage of cheap acoustics MIJ at the time...that is not to say they were not building some great solid wood guitars as well `cause they were, I own some. I have not seen that symbol before nor does it look like any Japanese kanji to me...as my wife was passing by I asked her she said look Korean to her but certainly not Japanese, and the circle surrounding the symbol is incomplete so maybe there is a part o the symbol missing? Is the top solid? The wood seen through the sound hole looks like the typical plywood I see lots of. But you know, sound is always the most important thing to me so if it sounds good thats all that really should matter. I have a LOT of old MIJs and it`s very difficult finding good data on most, sure theres a lot of stuff on the web but sifting through it all to reach the truth is not easy. Lawsuit...man theres a term that gets thrown around a lot nowadays, as far as I know there even was only one...Gibson threatened Ibanez and in fact it never came to pass, more of a threat of a lawsuit...least thats what I`ve read.
Quote from: sneaky on March 04, 2010, 09:25:54 AM
it looks like any one of the dozens of MIJ brands that show up on line in Japan, precisely when it was made is anybody`s guess...by the mid `60s LOTS of makers over here were using laminated wood for lower end stuff, by the `70s there were just too many to count, I thought about saving all the names of the different brands I came across on the web but after 50 or so I just gave up...there was no shortage of cheap acoustics MIJ at the time...that is not to say they were not building some great solid wood guitars as well `cause they were, I own some. I have not seen that symbol before nor does it look like any Japanese kanji to me...as my wife was passing by I asked her she said look Korean to her but certainly not Japanese, and the circle surrounding the symbol is incomplete so maybe there is a part o the symbol missing? Is the top solid? The wood seen through the sound hole looks like the typical plywood I see lots of. But you know, sound is always the most important thing to me so if it sounds good thats all that really should matter. I have a LOT of old MIJs and it`s very difficult finding good data on most, sure theres a lot of stuff on the web but sifting through it all to reach the truth is not easy. Lawsuit...man theres a term that gets thrown around a lot nowadays, as far as I know there even was only one...Gibson threatened Ibanez and in fact it never came to pass, more of a threat of a lawsuit...least thats what I`ve read.
Sneaky I figured if anyone knew it would be you. MIJ is the company I was trying to remember the name of. What is the M name. That is the company that even made Epiphones with the bolt on necks for a short time.
I just realized MIJ is Made In Japan. But there was a Japanese company that starts with a "M" that made a number of early 70's guitars with different brands on them. Most had the bolt on necks. Matsumoto or something like that. I know I may be way off on the name but it does begin with an M.
Here is a quote from Wikipediea.
"Takamine's US-American distributor is Kaman. A Takamine copy of a Martin guitar was the cause of a letter from Martin Guitars in the early 1980s because Takamine's acoustic guitars including the logo design were supposedly nearly identical to Martin Models. According to Chris F. Martin IV, CEO of CF Martin and Company in a speech given to the Unofficial Martin Guitar Forum members on August 8, 2005, no lawsuit was ever actually filed, and Takamine did change the appearance of their guitars."
I always assumed there was an actual lawsuit to one of the Martin copiers, but maybe not. It just became a descriptive word which has been badly abused for the sake of profiteering. I'll not use the term loosely anymore.
Quote from: dependan on March 04, 2010, 09:43:01 AM
I'll not use the term loosely anymore.
If you do, we'll have to sue.
Quote from: dependan on March 03, 2010, 11:07:37 PM
There are quite a few here that ride bikes. I use to, but it was long distance riding on BMW touring bikes. I had three bikes right before I got married. Two BMW tour bikes and a Virago.
Don't have any now, but I found a mirror off the Virago in the garage today and started thinking that another touring bike would be nice.
Diverting again.......
I rode my Virago From Tacoma to Tahoe, and then back up the Pacific Coast last summer. Best ride I have ever been on.
Sorry, back to your original programming.......... :winkin: :cop:
Thanks everyone for the information. I was just curious about the guitar but the education that came along with it is very much appreciated. I know a hundred times more now than when I asked the question. Thanks also for the compliments on the bikes. :thumb
Quote from: SMan on March 04, 2010, 05:12:44 PM
Diverting again.......
I rode my Virago From Tacoma to Tahoe, and then back up the Pacific Coast last summer. Best ride I have ever been on.
Sorry, back to your original programming.......... :winkin: :cop:
Mine was the first model. Which also happened to be the 1st V-Twin made in Japan and it was 750. Later they made larger models and I think even a smaller one. Mine really hugged the road and had a low slung seat.
I bet you have a newer, larger model.
Quote from: unforgiven on March 03, 2010, 11:00:47 PM
LOL! It's all good. Newbie to this forum but been on forums since there were forums. Playing guitar is actually my second love. This is my first love and the cause of me not being able to play for about four months after I crashed. Now this is a topic change.
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Been there, done that... (well, 30 years ago) :thumb
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Maybe we need a few more :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2 :donut :donut2
Quote from: gotahifit on March 04, 2010, 06:42:58 PM
Been there, done that... (well, 30 years ago)
Never too old my friend! I'm 45 this year and hope I have a lot left in me. This is a friend of mine that's spectacular crash was caught on camera last year and our group made it into a motivational poster for him. You can see him sliding in the dirt off to the left. Tom was 72 in this picture, took the ambulance out and said it was his last time. He lied. He's already been back and I'll be at the track with him in May.
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Since the OP started it here's my scoot. :humour:
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Absolutely and nice ride! As long as it's not against the rules. :beer
Quote from: unforgiven on March 04, 2010, 08:38:21 PM
Absolutely and nice ride! As long as it's not against the rules. :beer
Ain't against my rules. Nice pics guys.
Might as well throw one of my wife in also. This is actually the white Suzuki GSX-R 600 in garage picture above. I switch it over to full race trim for her for the track.
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Matsumoku made a lot of guitars at one time in Japan...maybe thats the company you`re thinking of?
Wikipedia eh...the last place I go to for information.
Quote from: sneaky on March 04, 2010, 09:59:04 PM
Matsumoku made a lot of guitars at one time in Japan...maybe thats the company you`re thinking of?
Wikipedia eh...the last place I go to for information.
That's the company. Have you seen all the info. that has been put in Wiki from this forum lately? ST is doing most of it and he is doing an excellent job. I know people can say anything they want there and sometimes it can't be corrected when it's amiss.
Quote from: unforgiven on March 04, 2010, 09:10:28 PM
Might as well throw one of my wife in also. This is actually the white Suzuki GSX-R 600 in garage picture above. I switch it over to full race trim for her for the track.
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The only motorcycle riding my wife has done is with her arms wrapped around me. We sure had a lot of fun for the short while I still had my old boxer R100RT BMW touring bike. We sold it after one year of marriage and used the $ to take a nice trip to Belize.
We gained a son-in-law from that trip eventually, and a wonderful grandson. Not a bad deal for a bimmer pushing 300,000 miles.
Quote from: dependan on March 04, 2010, 10:11:53 PM
The only motorcycle riding my wife has done is with her arms wrapped around me. We sure had a lot of fun for the short while I still had my old boxer R100RT BMW touring bike. We sold it after one year of marriage and used the $ to take a nice trip to Belize.
We gained a son-in-law from that trip eventually, and a wonderful grandson. Not a bad deal for a bimmer pushing 300,000 miles.
Yes Sir! Can't argue with that outcome at all.
Quote from: dependan on March 04, 2010, 10:11:53 PM
The only motorcycle riding my wife has done is with her arms wrapped around me. We sure had a lot of fun for the short while I still had my old boxer R100RT BMW touring bike. We sold it after one year of marriage and used the $ to take a nice trip to Belize.
We gained a son-in-law from that trip eventually, and a wonderful grandson. Not a bad deal for a bimmer pushing 300,000 miles.
?? This sounds like a longer than 1 sentence story. You gained a son in law from a trip taken right after you were married? (The original question about guitar has been covered no?) Spin one.
Quote from: unforgiven on March 04, 2010, 08:32:04 PM
Never too old my friend! I'm 45 this year and hope I have a lot left in me. This is a friend of mine that's spectacular crash was caught on camera last year and our group made it into a motivational poster for him. You can see him sliding in the dirt off to the left. Tom was 72 in this picture, took the ambulance out and said it was his last time. He lied. He's already been back and I'll be at the track with him in May.
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I'm glad to hear your friend came through it okay (oh boy did I get a flashback on that one!)! :thumb
I have friends that still ride, but I sold my last bike about 10 years ago... here's a couple of pix (which will date my riding years) ..first is the guy that got me into it in 1966 Isle of Mann WINNER, Bill Boyd. And a photo of me on my first decent bike in 1967.(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee83/gotahifit/Misc/ASSORTED%20PIX/1966_BillBoyd1.jpg)(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee83/gotahifit/Misc/ASSORTED%20PIX/67honda450.jpg)
The first photo below is where I did most of my early learning, and the crew that I used to ride with (more current photo of them) taken on our Sunday Morning Ride along the coastal 101 to Point Reyes. :cop:(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee83/gotahifit/Misc/ASSORTED%20PIX/theride.jpg)(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee83/gotahifit/Misc/ASSORTED%20PIX/SundayMorningRiders_WadeandDan_Bill.jpg)
I raced from 1968 through 1974. Then I was hit from the side as I went through an intersection, spent a year learning to walk all over again, but was riding in the next year.. no racing just casual rides. Miss it, but things change. :wave
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That is incredible! I watch the Isle of Mann every year and it's on my bucket list to see it in person. If you don't know what the Isle of Mann is, go Google it. It is heart stoppinp! I would kill for curves like the ones in that picture. I live in Florida so literally I have to about 2 descent curve is 50 miles of riding. My wife and I go up to Asheville three of four times a year to ride the Blue Ridge Parkway and the mountain twisties that branch off of it. We trailer them them the 500 miles there. Thanks for sharing that!
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Quote from: unforgiven on March 05, 2010, 08:30:52 AM
That is incredible! I watch the Isle of Mann every year and it's on my bucket list to see it in person. If you don't know what the Isle of Mann is, go Google it. It is heart stoppinp! I would kill for curves like the ones in that picture. I live in Florida so literally I have to about 2 descent curve is 50 miles of riding. My wife and I go up to Asheville three of four times a year to ride the Blue Ridge Parkway and the mountain twisties that branch off of it. We trailer them them the 500 miles there. Thanks for sharing that!
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Here in CA there are A LOT of curves to deal with! You'd love it... :bgrin: In the last photo of my last post, at the far right holding a sign, is the SON of Bill Boyd, Wade (who I've known since he was a child).. who I also raced with one time (tandum 250 miler on the 4th of July (1969) at Cotati Speedway, CA). This photo was taken on the Sunday Morning Memorial Ride after his Father died in 2008, he rode right up to the end (in his 80's), and did it with only ONE LEG which he lost when a Buick crossed center divider and hit him head on. Memorial pix below:
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You can see a lot of Wade on YOUTUBE. He turned out to be a character usually sporting purple hair as he raced. There are a lot of other Wade Boyd vids on Youtube too, just search Wade Boyd. You can also find him on FB. Do a search and he'll be the first one (can't miss him on the bike).
He's a "poor man's" racer, does 99% of all the work himself... no cushy ride there. He does it because he loves it and always has! :cheers
OH and NICE bikes!!!! :bowdown:
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Well now that this is totally off topic here is an "Elevation" picture from last summer... :laughin:
(I have to say I'm loving the bike pictures. :thumb)
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OK.... this has gone far enuff kiddo's :angry: I actually stopped by Lone Star BMW today and they had an old R-100 RT sitting out front. It only had 43,000 miles on it! That ain't even broke in yet. I bet the owner never did any iron butt riding and I could just sense that it would like to go to Sturgis. (not during the "fake biker rally" though.) There's just something wrong in my book about taking a $20,000 bike by truck, plane or whatever to Sturgis and rolling it out to sit there and watch others gaze at it. I never cared for streamers on my handle bars and baseball cards in my spokes when I was a kid either.
Give me a bike stripped down to nothing extra but me and a country path through trees and hills and running next to a drop off into a river. Then I would haul a** and go as fast as I possibly could to see if I could do it. And I could.
I think the long distance riding out across the Great Plains is just part of the country cowboy kid who wants to be freed from the loneliness of the crowd by "solitude" and and the "great wide open".
My wife and my best friend years ago are the only ones to accompany on those trips. I would lend my other BMW touring bike to him. It was a newer K100 LT. We went to Key west once from Austin together. Man he don't know how to ride :tongue:
Where was I? Oh yea. "Lone Star BMW, Austin, Texas. And the prettiest Royal Blue R100 RT I have seen in quite a while. I threw a leg over it and knew right then a custom seat would need to be ordered. Other than that, I think I would be quite happy with it.
So y'all can stop anytime your ready... let's talk lawsuits and funky guitars. :donut
pardon my interrupting the motorcycle talk to add something for the original poster...I asked a Korean student of mine, she says it`s not Korean either. So...theres the monkey wrench I just wanted to toss into the mix.
Quote from: dependan on March 05, 2010, 05:18:03 PM
OK.... this has gone far enuff kiddo's :angry: I actually stopped by Lone Star BMW today and they had an old R-100 RT sitting out front. It only had 43,000 miles on it! That ain't even broke in yet. I bet the owner never did any iron butt riding and I could just sense that it would like to go to Sturgis. (not during the "fake biker rally" though.) There's just something wrong in my book about taking a $20,000 bike by truck, plane or whatever to Sturgis and rolling it out to sit there and watch others gaze at it. I never cared for streamers on my handle bars and baseball cards in my spokes when I was a kid either.
Give me a bike stripped down to nothing extra but me and a country path through trees and hills and running next to a drop off into a river. Then I would haul a** and go as fast as I possibly could to see if I could do it. And I could.
I think the long distance riding out across the Great Plains is just part of the country cowboy kid who wants to be freed from the loneliness of the crowd by "solitude" and and the "great wide open".
My wife and my best friend years ago are the only ones to accompany on those trips. I would lend my other BMW touring bike to him. It was a newer K100 LT. We went to Key west once from Austin together. Man he don't know how to ride :tongue:
Where was I? Oh yea. "Lone Star BMW, Austin, Texas. And the prettiest Royal Blue R100 RT I have seen in quite a while. I threw a leg over it and knew right then a custom seat would need to be ordered. Other than that, I think I would be quite happy with it.
So y'all can stop anytime your ready... let's talk lawsuits and funky guitars. :donut
It's waiting for you Danny.... :wink: (http://lonestarcycle.com/images/c10009.jpg)
Quote from: sneaky on March 06, 2010, 04:29:11 AM
pardon my interrupting the motorcycle talk to add something for the original poster...I asked a Korean student of mine, she says it`s not Korean either. So...theres the monkey wrench I just wanted to toss into the mix.
Thanks! :coffee :donut2
Quote from: Randy_R on March 06, 2010, 09:20:53 AM
It's waiting for you Danny.... :wink: (http://lonestarcycle.com/images/c10009.jpg)
That is the one. Mine was an older model but looked almost the same and I painted it a deep maroon color. I also had a custom seat for long trips. That seat is nice but not quite right.
Enablers :winkin:
Quote from: sneaky on March 06, 2010, 04:29:11 AM
pardon my interrupting the motorcycle talk to add something for the original poster...I asked a Korean student of mine, she says it`s not Korean either. So...theres the monkey wrench I just wanted to toss into the mix.
Quote from: unforgiven on March 06, 2010, 12:31:50 PM
Thanks! :coffee :donut2
The symbol is obviously an early motorcycle design where rider sat in middle of one large wheel. As braking quickly became an issue, the design was improved upon.
Quote from: flatlander on March 06, 2010, 01:59:25 PM
The symbol is obviously an early motorcycle design where rider sat in middle of one large wheel. As braking quickly became an issue, the design was improved upon.
Well there ya have it. It must be a "Yamaha". Case closed. :laughin:
Quote from: dependan on March 06, 2010, 03:14:30 PM
Well there ya have it. It must be a "Yamaha". Case closed. :laughin:
I think that pretty much settles it! :roll
The headstock reminds me of an old Yamaki dread I sold a couple years ago.
I think they got a lawsuit for having a name too close to Yamaha. :roll (no, I'm not joking)
Speaking of motorcycles, I put 124 miles on this '05 Italian beauty today:
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Quote from: prof_stack on March 06, 2010, 08:26:21 PM
Speaking of motorcycles, I put 124 miles on this '05 Italian beauty today:
Moto Guzzis are fun...sad to say I sold my Bassa last year so I don't have a MC anymore...