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Title: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: Sabatini on March 02, 2010, 08:18:05 PM
Composite Acoustics has shut down.  A shame.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: Danny on March 02, 2010, 08:27:35 PM
  Sad, but more will follow.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: mas music on March 02, 2010, 08:53:34 PM
Has anyone ever played an Adamas the father of carbon fiber guitars ?
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: unclrob on March 02, 2010, 11:12:58 PM
Oddly enough I've played them and there very nice.Only problem round back on round front and I hate wearing velcro shirts.Also played the first round of CA's and they were also pretty nice but still prefer wood.I'll also add if I was a touring musician I'd be using them both are really good tools.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on March 03, 2010, 01:11:07 AM
Were they not at the recent NAMM show??? Hmmmm. Not good not good as they set the benchmark in travel gits if you ask me. Fender or Gibson will likely scoop up their rights maybe :?
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: Queequeg on March 03, 2010, 06:01:28 AM
Looks like I got myself a collectors item. Nice people there. I had good service & some pleasant conversations with some folks there as a new owner a few years back.
Emerald (in Ireland) is back in business again. And there's Blackbird out in the Bay Area now too. Of course Rainsong.
It's rough when you're out there on the bleeding edge.
I wish nothing but the best to all their employees in Lafayette, LA where it was already a tough economy.
Most comfortable guitar I have ever played. No, of course it is not wood. It's not an "either/or" decision. I have wooden guitars. I bought the CA to play out in the long, cold Michigan winters so that I could leave my nice wooden guitars at home. I can have it in the car when the temperature is 10ºF and walk inside and immediately open the case and start playing. The pleasant surprise was what a nice guitar this GX Performer is and how great it sounds. So much more than just a travel guitar. Mine is not for sale.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on March 03, 2010, 08:39:30 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on March 03, 2010, 06:01:28 AM
Mine is not for sale.

:thumb
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: Dotneck on March 03, 2010, 11:25:27 AM
A guy on AGF was in the middle of a special order Forum Guitar from CA....O wonder how many orders were placed for that guitar...

That's too bad for the guys that were expecting one of those...too bad for the guitar industry in general.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: SMan on March 03, 2010, 12:09:16 PM
I played photmat's and was very impressed!

The real reason for the demise will probably never be known but suffice it to say RIP CA Guitars.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: Mr_LV19E on March 03, 2010, 12:34:23 PM
Quote from: unclrob on March 02, 2010, 11:12:58 PM
Only problem round back on round front and I hate wearing velcro shirts.

Your supposed to put 60 grit self stick sandpaper on the back of the guitar and then go shirtless.   :ohmy: I just pictured you shirtless, please stick with the wood guitars.  :roll
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: dkoloff on March 03, 2010, 02:11:41 PM
There were about 30 special orders on the AGF forum guitar for CA...those did not happen. Did pickup another OX from Macnichol as they are divesting themselves quickly of their stock of CA's. It is a shame....my favorite of the carbon manufacturers both in price points and sound of the guitars, hopefully someone sees the value in picking it up.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: unclrob on March 03, 2010, 03:51:31 PM
Roger I tried the self sticking stuff but it pulled way to much fur from my..........TMI HUH..... :ohmy:
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: ducktrapper on March 03, 2010, 04:46:39 PM
I hate to see anyone go out of business and what a tough business it must be these days. In a recession, there can't be a huge demand for composite guitars. I wish them luck in the future.   
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: laughingskunk on March 04, 2010, 01:29:09 PM
I recently purchased a CA OX. When I got it the bridge was lifting. Well long story short I sent it back to CA. They were supposed to start work on it Monday. Well I havent heard anything from them. I have been in contact with the dealer I bought it new from and he said he is in contact. He promised to work at getting my guitar back. It is scary though because am out the money for a new guitar- so not sure what is going to happen. CA seemed like an upstanding company and the dealer seems like a good guy as well. But right now am a little anxious. No website, no phone number and only way to contact them is through dealer. Patrick
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: Queequeg on March 04, 2010, 02:31:55 PM
Sit tight, laughingskunk. Your "only way to contact them is through dealer" is also the best way. And provides a second layer of protection, for now that CA is gone your dealer knows that you will hold him accountable to make it right by you, no matter what CA can or cannot do.
If I were a betting man, I'd say you'll come out alright in this.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: jimmy buffett on March 04, 2010, 02:48:22 PM
I don't want to pretend that I have any expertise in this area, but it seems to me that if you have a receipt for the guitar, you should be able to contact the bankruptcy trustee and and have it returned to you.

They will typically take possession of all of the compnay's assets, but in this case, you have proof of ownership.  This serves as a reminder to always keep your receipts, as any time you leave your guitar with a service tech, it's nice to be able to provide proof of ownership to reclaim your property.

jimmy
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: Queequeg on March 04, 2010, 03:12:35 PM
Quote from: jimmy buffett on March 04, 2010, 02:48:22 PM
I don't want to pretend that I have any expertise in this area, but it seems to me that if you have a receipt for the guitar, you should be able to contact the bankruptcy trustee and and have it returned to you.

Well, this is the first I've heard that they had filed for protection under the bankruptcy laws.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: laughingskunk on March 04, 2010, 03:14:16 PM
Thanks for your words of support and encouragement. Yes would love to contact someone related to CA, but have no clue who that would be bankruptcy, etc. My fear is that the guitar will get misplaced or even sent out to a dealer with all the stuff going on. I do have a bill for the guitar so that is not the problem as well as the serial number. I will just wait and see what happens. I did send an email to the dealer with all the relevant information and was told to contact him next week, after he talks to CA again. It is just wait and see time now. I do want this guitar back of course- would prefer that over the refund of the money. I have a feeling CA's could be a hot item at dealers especially the OX. Patrick
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: jimmy buffett on March 04, 2010, 05:09:15 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on March 04, 2010, 03:12:35 PM
Well, this is the first I've heard that they had filed for protection under the bankruptcy laws.

Good point.  I guess I just assumed that a company that is solvent would not just walk away and lock the door behind them. If they were shutting down, they likely would have had better communications with their dealers and returned any instruments belonging to their customers.  Bottom line is that the OP should do his best to determine where the product is being held and do his best to communicate with who ever is in charge at this point.  Guitars don't just vanish, and he is the legal owner of that instrument.

That's my two cents worth, and I'd be interested in hearing from others who might have gone through a similar situation.  Many years ago, I had an electronic device that was in for warranty work, and when the company was in trouble they just refused to send merchandise out from their warehouse.  I can't remember what the conflict was about, but after many months of frustration I had a friend who was a lawyer send them a letter informing them that if they did not provide proof of shipping for the return of this item that was legally mine, he would send the sheriff and to repossess and have them charged with fraud & theft.  He gave them 24 hours before we would proceed.  I had my property back by the end of that week...

jimmy
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: lyric_girl on March 04, 2010, 07:57:48 PM
Sad, but I thought they were over priced.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: cke on March 04, 2010, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: lyric_girl on March 04, 2010, 07:57:48 PM
Sad, but I thought they were over priced.
Really? In the RAW finish, I thought they are reasonable compared to the likes of  Rainsong. Equivalent to Larri -03's

Now I am seriously wondering If I should pick one up from a dealer who has several.  So Cargo, X, OX or GX?
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: Zohn on March 05, 2010, 12:37:00 AM
Bummer, what are my chances now for ever trying one out....  :crying:
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: gitnoob on March 05, 2010, 02:26:49 AM
Quote from: cke on March 04, 2010, 08:10:57 PM
Now I am seriously wondering If I should pick one up from a dealer who has several.  So Cargo, X, OX or GX?

Cargo is the most unique and useful.   OX is probably the most versatile.    I went for both.   Already had a Cargo, and my new OX is enroute.    :nana_guitar
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: Blue in VT on March 05, 2010, 10:27:50 AM
 :mad: :angry: :mad:
I knew I should have grabbed a Cargo when I had the chance....oh well.  I hope comes out with a more traditionally shaped carbon fiber travel guitar...like the cargo but parlor shaped.... :nanadance

Blue
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: J. Hunter on March 06, 2010, 11:38:36 AM
Such a shame.  I've been putting off buying a travel guitar until I could afford a cargo.  By far the best travel guitar I've ever played.  Superb.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: Mr_LV19E on March 06, 2010, 08:10:30 PM
A/G magazine has a review of 6 travel guitars in this months edition, at the end of the article they list 17 more options including the Cargo. Many options to pick from but sad to see the company fold.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: cke on March 07, 2010, 01:47:25 AM
So can any one compare the X to the OX?I may have a choice.

I have played the Cargo and GX.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: gitnoob on March 07, 2010, 01:58:11 PM
Quote from: cke on March 07, 2010, 01:47:25 AM
So can any one compare the X to the OX?I may have a choice.

I have played the Cargo and GX.

There are some youtube videos directly comparing those two models.    I haven't had a chance to play either of them, but I have an OX on the way to me based solely on youtube vids and user reviews.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: tadol on March 07, 2010, 08:09:10 PM
I think that more companies, including many well-established guitar companies, will be introducing models that incorporate more non-traditional materials. Martin is currently selling guitars that can at best be described as "plywood and formica", with printed graphics or grain. They, and others, see big profits possible in man-made materials, as well as the growing market awareness of high-retail guitars that are invulnerable to humidity and temperature.

CA, and others, have proven that guitarists will pay a good price for these instruments. We're sure to see alot more of them - unfortunately, CA won't be there to reap the rewards of all their marketing.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: petevee on March 09, 2010, 02:06:05 AM
Quote from: Dotneck on March 03, 2010, 11:25:27 AM
A guy on AGF was in the middle of a special order Forum Guitar from CA....O wonder how many orders were placed for that guitar...

That's too bad for the guys that were expecting one of those...too bad for the guitar industry in general.

It was disappointing to the AGF members but at least they all got their deposits back. The biggest looser in that deal was the dealer, LA Guitar Sales. The guy put a ton of hours in to the project arranging a custom model from CA and marketing it to the AGF members. I already have an OX but that custom AGF OX was calling my name big time. Ted tells me him and JR are talking about a custom AGF Larrivee.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: tadol on March 09, 2010, 09:25:44 PM
Quote from: petevee on March 09, 2010, 02:06:05 AM
Ted tells me him and JR are talking about a custom AGF Larrivee.

Tell us more!!!!!!!!! Any hints/ideas/thoughts about what they are planning?????
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: cke on March 09, 2010, 09:31:06 PM
Just returned from talking to Ted at LA Guitar Sales. And I bought one of his last (THE last?) Cargo's.   And the custom Larrivee idea is not just idle speculation - very early and too early tell if it is a go, but if at all possible I will be in on this one.
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on March 09, 2010, 09:51:58 PM
Quote from: petevee on March 09, 2010, 02:06:05 AM
Ted tells me him and JR are talking about a custom AGF Larrivee.

Yep You got my attention!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: SMan on March 09, 2010, 10:29:20 PM
I wasn't in on the whole CA deal but it just seems to me that someone at CA had to know the plug was being pulled when the AGF CA special was going on and money was being deposited.  FWIW I have never had anything to do with Ted but it sure seems someone could have dropped him a hint so he didn't go through all the work he did.  It made me have a lot less sympathy for their (CA's) plight.  I do feel bad for all the workers and those who thought they had a guitar with a warranty.  Just Sayin'
Title: Re: CA Guitars out of business!
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on March 09, 2010, 11:20:41 PM
 wonder who will resurrect, tough to say now til this economic dark cloud blows over :?