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Title: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: unclrob on July 26, 2009, 11:42:49 PM
Just what it says.I'd like to find one with both XLR and 1/4" inputs.Any help would be great.
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: rockstar_not on July 27, 2009, 12:03:40 AM
What about format - rackmount or desktop?  I've been using a dbx mini pre that's 2 channel, XLR and 1/4" for many years now with no problems.  Supplies phantom power and has a pad switch as well.  It ran around 60 bucks on eBay a few years ago.
 
These days. you can also get this functionality and a little bit more from a small format mixer as well.  Keep your eyes peeled for a used Mackie VLZ series mixer and you'll have nice clean pre-amps as well as a rock solid mixer.

Here's a Mackie VLZ-1202 that has 4 mic preamps and more line inputs that's running less than the dbx mini pre - under $100!  33 minutes left if you are here at Larrivee forums 'live' while I post!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mackie-1202-vlz-pro_W0QQitemZ280374545685QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4147a00d15&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1234|293%3A1|294%3A50



Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: kdonovan on July 27, 2009, 06:21:07 AM
email sent

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Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: unclrob on July 27, 2009, 10:24:37 AM
Format is not really that importent.What I'm trying to do is use a smaller electric guitar amp which would be mic'ed and then run my acoustic straight thru a powered PA cab.I hope this makes sence.
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: jeremy3220 on July 27, 2009, 11:32:24 AM
Quote from: unclrob on July 26, 2009, 11:42:49 PM
Just what it says.I'd like to find one with both XLR and 1/4" inputs.Any help would be great.

The M-Audio 'Audio Buddy' is exactly that and only that.

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/AudioBuddy.html

For a slightly more powerful one look at the DMP3.
http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/DMP3.html
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: unclrob on July 27, 2009, 12:50:52 PM
I have the M-audio but I found is that I need something with some tone controls.It looks like I heading towards a2 channel mixer.Any suggestion.I have an older 14 channel Mackie board just want something much smaller,I do have access to a 4 channel Mackie but almost as big as my 14 channel one.I have thought of using 2 LR Baggs Paradirect box's but they don't have an XLR in if I remember rite.
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: Biggs on August 03, 2009, 09:05:45 PM
You may have already seen it but, Mackie has a smaller mixer in the VLZ series; the 402 VLZ-3 with 2 XLR and/or 2 - 1/4" inputs.  Although I not particularily a big fan of Behringer equipment, they also make small mixer (1002fx) that looks interesting.  I'm looking for a small mixer or mic preamp/DI as well.
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: unclrob on August 03, 2009, 10:08:48 PM
I'm not a fan of the Behringer products and haven't had a chance to check out the Mackie yet.
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: arriflex on August 21, 2009, 11:27:02 PM
Rob,

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/DMP3.html

This seems pretty highly regarded in its price range ($160 or so....). People seem to agree you can really crank it's pre's without inducing major noise.

I'm eyeballing one t pair up with my firebox.
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: unclrob on August 22, 2009, 11:50:26 AM
Well this is what I ended up doing.
Electric guitar thru a 72 Fender Princeton Reverb mic'ed from behind with an Shure SM57 into an Maudio lined to one side od an A/B box.
Acoustic guitar with either a GHS on body mic or Fishman passive pickup to a Fishman preamp into my Ultra Sound AC30 lined out to the Maudio to the otherside of the A/B box.
A/B box then sends a line to the main PA.

Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: dwdelcam on April 08, 2010, 08:00:15 AM
I am using the Mackie 402VLZ and couldnt be more pleased - its a workhorse!
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: eded on April 08, 2010, 08:23:04 AM
http://www.ultrasoundamps.com/image-viewer-dimax.html
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: Glennd on April 08, 2010, 08:46:00 AM
Have you looked at Presonus? They offer a 2 channel preamp called BluetubeDP. Excellent company with high quality products and reasonable prices. On the Mackie 402, I don't think that model has XLR outputs if that is important. The next up model the 802 does have XLR outputs. I use a Presonus single channel on a directional mic as part of my guitar amplification and find it to be the strongest part of the chain.
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: unclrob on April 08, 2010, 08:46:27 AM
Well the MAudio didn't work out.I did end up with the Mackie 402VLZ.This works much better as I have added MIDI guitar to the field.The rig is now:

Electric guitar to Princeton reverb mic'ed from behind to Mackie.
MIDI guitar channel 2
Acoustic guitar to LRBaggs preamp

The left side of the board is then plugged into a Technical Pro powered PA cab with a 12"
The right side signal set to a channel in the main PA.
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: flatlander on April 08, 2010, 09:21:08 AM
Rob. MIDI? See, you're actually a modern cave man. Perhaps I'll see you on Geico commercial?
(http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/mwWfU18boOI/default.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: unclrob on April 08, 2010, 09:29:57 AM
Glenn I don't need the xlr out so the Mackie works well.

Flatlander :laughin:
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: leftycajun on April 08, 2010, 03:25:22 PM
Can't believe nobody mentioned the D-Tar Solstice. 
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: unclrob on April 08, 2010, 09:37:00 PM
This is the first I've heard of the D-Tar Solstice.


Flatlander I got into MIDI before the turn of the century,about 25 years ago.
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: leftycajun on April 08, 2010, 10:28:02 PM
Here's the link to the Solstice : http://www.d-tar.com/solstice.shtml
2 channels w 1/4" and XLR inputs, eq on both channels, multiple output options.  It's pretty small, too.  It actually fit (in it's case) in the front pocket of my gigbag.  I used one for a year or so and it worked great.  Ended up selling it, but I have a hunch another one will be headed my way soon, esp if I put a dual source pickup in my incoming C-05.
Title: Re: Looking for a small 2 channel pre amp
Post by: thrandall on April 27, 2010, 02:33:06 AM
What about the UltraSound DI Max, I've been looking at it very closely and it seems to have all that you require.  ULTRASOUND DI MAX Features:

• Full-featured stereo preamp and DI box
• "Bulletproof" metal housing
• Input gain control for each channel to allow proper setting for the huge variety of
   acoustic pickup output levels
• Balanced XLR output for routing the signal to a PA system
• 1/4" Line Out for sending the signal to a stage amp
• Both stage and PA outputs have their own level controls
• 48V phantom power capability
• Active bass and treble EQ for each channel
• Mid-dip shape for each channel control permits removal of honky
• Phase switch for each channel to help eliminate feedback

Currently I use a Sunrise with my Larrivee C-10 Deluxe. I'm thinking of getting a K&K or a Baggs dual source mic to incorporate with the Sunrise and the DI Max seems to be a perfect choice for me that is.