Text only | Text with Images

Main Forums => Technical Discussion => Topic started by: Johnny Canso on July 30, 2007, 07:50:39 PM

Title: How to tell Brazillian from East Indian?
Post by: Johnny Canso on July 30, 2007, 07:50:39 PM
I am curious of what the trained or untrained eye looks for when distinquishing Brazillian rosewood from East Indian rosewood? I know of a guitar that is suppose to be EIR, but it looks very aggressively grained of which, reminds me of some Braz. guitars i've seen. :?
Title: Re: How to tell Brazillian from East Indian?
Post by: Cowgirlie on July 30, 2007, 10:07:06 PM
I'm certainly no expert on rosewoods, but the Braz I have seen ws tighter grained, and darker sort of dark cherry and almost black undertones, the East Indian I have seen and owned has a larger pattern in the grain, and has more gold/cherry hues
Title: Re: How to tell Brazillian from East Indian?
Post by: stuco on August 02, 2007, 10:03:17 PM
 :ph34r:

Once you've seen enough examples of each you will be able to tell.  Sometimes its hard to tell the difference though.
Title: Re: How to tell Brazillian from East Indian?
Post by: stuco on August 02, 2007, 10:08:12 PM
 :ph34r:

Here's a nice example of a larrivee with Braz. RW:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Larrivee-D60-BRAZILIAN-Bluegrass-Less-Than-100-Made_W0QQitemZ220134437805QQihZ012QQcategoryZ33028QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Here's a Larrivee with Indian RW:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_4898.jpg
Title: Re: How to tell Brazillian from East Indian?
Post by: brandon on August 03, 2007, 09:55:03 AM
brazilian is not quite as dark to me as east indian.

that D-60BZ has been lurking on ebay for quite awhile now it seems like.
Title: Re: How to tell Brazillian from East Indian?
Post by: bhika on August 03, 2007, 10:21:10 AM
Most of the Brazilian I have seen has a much redder, dark cherry hue to it then EIR.
Title: Re: How to tell Brazillian from East Indian?
Post by: Tony Burns on August 17, 2007, 06:39:23 PM
their are a few examples of each that can fool so-called experts --An example is a Dick Boak Brazilian rosewood Dread i have , the sides are obvious Brazilian - but the backs color is more brown in color - because some of the finishes that were used in the 70's ( early water based ) tended to change the woods color -- the inside of the guitar does show the woods Red color thou -- yes im sure its Brazilian !
Title: Re: How to tell Brazillian from East Indian?
Post by: ElJefe on August 19, 2007, 07:08:19 PM
I own an EIR/Adi Bourgeois with a high drool factor (7.3).  When I see a Braz, it escalates to a DF rating of 8.9 - their are no 10's on this drool factor rating system.   :drool:

From this site, go to Dana Bourgeois in print and click on "Tapping Tone Woods".  IMHO, Dana is in the top 3 luthiers who really know guitar woods.

http://www.pantheonguitars.com/
Title: Re: How to tell Brazillian from East Indian?
Post by: saffron_boots on August 21, 2007, 12:42:16 AM
It may seem silly but if it's in hand, smell it. EIR is just woody but BRZ has a distinct and strong fragrance.
Title: Re: How to tell Brazillian from East Indian?
Post by: bhika on August 21, 2007, 08:42:43 AM
THE PRICE! :laughin:
Title: Re: How to tell Brazillian from East Indian?
Post by: Tony Burns on September 16, 2007, 09:59:02 PM
The really top end Brazilian is quarter sawn - but theirs not alot of that floating around -- most of the stuff i see now a days is slab cut - thou beautiful , sometimes more beautiful  than quarter sawn, its not as good -- but now a days just to get BR you need the help of a nice inheritance--
Text only | Text with Images