OK guys, what would everyone like to see introduced at the NAMM show? One 03 series type of thing and one upper end glossy thing.
I'm thinking maybe an L03R with pointed cutaway, abalone rosette and bone nut & saddle?
And for the high end, maybe a Cocobolo back & sides with some kind of exotic spruce top and small tasteful inlay somewhere?
What's everyone think? Let's hear what you guys would like.
how about an 00-03 mt with short scale9.
05 claro walnut and redwood om for the upper end
D-50/60 in really nice flamed maple.
I'd like to see a 000-03 series and a return of the florentine cutaway as an option on the upper end, but of course that would be good on the 03's too.
gloss top on the 03 line as an option
12-fret D-03 model available
news that they have stopped using Ping (chinese word for crap) tuners
I realize the Dreds probably have to look like Martins to sell. For the others, I'd really like to see a return to the classical-inspired styling of the older models.
Specifically, I'd like to see the marquetry rosettes, clear pickguards, and rosewood binding (with just a narrow contrast strip of maple to separate it from rosewood bodies) come back in a big way.
I'd like to see more 12 fret necks (long or maybe medium scale, with medium being between the Parlor short scale and the everything-else long scale).
I'd like to see the 00 come back, with a -03 model added. An -03R option would be a nice bonus, but not a hard requirement.
I'd like to see an -03 version of the LS body.
I wish I could still buy a forum guitar, or that I had jumped on the one that was sold recently. However, a Larrivee old-style discrete marquetry rosette (no Torres archery targets) instead of abalone would have been a really nice touch.
A 00-size with roughly OM proportions would be nice (wide upper bout).
Several custom builders have ergonomic options, such as making the body thinner on the bass side or beveling the bass side of the lower bout. I would like to see a Larrivee twist on something like that, but I realize it probably couldn't be an -03.
A satin neck with a gloss body would be nice.
I would love to see a short scale 000 type O-3 guitar ( not holding my breath on that happening, though ). High end? Maybe a glossy myrtlewood?
Quote from: mgbgt on January 03, 2007, 09:22:33 PM
how about an 00-03 mt with short scale9.
Quote from: sgarnett on January 04, 2007, 08:08:41 AM
Id like to see the 00 come back, with a -03 model added.
:+1: A 00-03 is just what I'm looking for to fill out my collection....and an MT... :drool: :drool:...I'm not sure my heart could handle it!
As for a higher end model I'd love to see and OM-09 FM with a Cedar top! and the option for cedar on guitars in general again....
guess we will have to wait and see
BTW...who gets to go to this convention...is it just professionals?
I've been in contact with fingerstylist Paul Asbell about some lessons but we can't start until feb because he'll be out at NAMM demoing various builders guitars for them at their booths....sounds like it would be worth attending just to see these guys play...let alone the latest and greatest guitar creations!
:cheers
Blue
I have to echo the sentiment that the 03 series would be nicer with a 00 or 000 added to it. MMMMmmm... a 00-03 spruce over sapele...that would be another fingerstyle gem in the Larrivee catalog. That along with maybe an LS or LSV but personally, I like 'em better without the cutaway.
Quote from: Denis on January 04, 2007, 09:07:56 AM
I have to echo the sentiment that the 03 series would be nicer with a 00 or 000 added to it.
:+1:
my favorite Larrivee is the 00-60.
00 is a great size and with the 12-fret & slotted headstock. mm.
How about a pointed cutaway L-03R with Gotoh 510 tuners, clear pickguard, bone nut, saddle & bridge pins and cedar top?
Maybe in the higher end, an L cut Madagascar rosewood or Cocobolo with an Engelmann top?
Koa.
A 12-fret OM-03 in rosewood or walnut. Maybe even bubinga.
Amen to seeing some twelve-frets in the -03 series. Both a 000 and a dread. And as long we're making a wish list, I'd love to see the 000-50 and 000-60 with 1 3/4 nuts. Us flatpickers like small-bodied guitars, too.
A 00-60, 12 fret, slotted headstock, clear pickguard, California poppies inlaid on the fretboard and bridge. :drool:
I'd like to see an unclrob signature model with a beltsander inlaid on the 12th fret and a donut for the rosette.
Quote from: jeremy3220 on January 05, 2007, 07:49:42 AM
I'd like to see an unclrob signature model with a beltsander inlaid on the 12th fret and a donut for the rosette.
:roll :roll :roll
:ph34r:
The option of different nut widths on L body guitars
Quote from: jeremy3220 on January 05, 2007, 07:49:42 AM
I'd like to see an unclrob signature model with a beltsander inlaid on the 12th fret and a donut for the rosette.
:+1: :tongue: :roll
:cheers
Blue
Quote from: jeremy3220 on January 05, 2007, 07:49:42 AM
I'd like to see an unclrob signature model with a beltsander inlaid on the 12th fret and a donut for the rosette.
Now, that would be worth the up charge for sure. We love you unclrob.
Hey, how about if they announced that their warranty could be transfered to whoever owns the guitar for a specific number of years like Traynor warrants their amp?
Return of: acoustic bass, florentine cutaways
Introduction of: nylon string crossover (like Taylor's NS, but better and based on the L shape - I don't see a better candidate to do this but Jean, since he knows both steel and nylon strings inside out).
+1 on an L-body nylon string! Maybe an L03N/R (nylon/rosewood) with either 1 7/8" or 1 15/16" nut!!!
L-03 rosewood or black walnut, 12 fret, slotted headstock, 1.75 nut, long scale, bone nut and saddle, ebony pins, tortoise pickguard, that would fulfill both high end and low end for me.
John
Quote from: the_sound_of_acoustic_soul on January 03, 2007, 11:39:46 PM
news that they have stopped using Ping (chinese word for crap) tuners
But that'd take away all the fun for the compulsive upgrade weenies. I've owned easily 25 Larrivees and never had a tuner problem. Not even close. There's nothing wrong with Ping tuners. Wrap strings ends around posts properly, keep nut slots and bridge saddles correctly angled and lubricated, throw away the digital tuner and learn how to tune by intervals. The rest is just window dressing.
I see a lot of interest here in 12-fret -03 guitars. Why, then, have so many Forum guitars been selling lately for so cheap?
Otherwise, as to NAMM, I'd still like to see an L-body maple back and side guitar in the -03 series.
quote: "There's nothing wrong with Ping tuners."
the only thing wrong with Ping tuners is everything. They are junk and Larrivee CAN and SHOULD do better by their customers by getting rid of them.
My guitar was untunable (is that a word?) due to them and a friend of mine got rid of his Larrivee because it would not hold tune. He got an all-lam Alvarez that he thinks is far superior to his old Larrivee (it is if it will hold tune).
This has been the experience of many. I'm glad you've not had the same troubles though.
I'd like to see the Larrivee Custom Shop, fully opened and ready to take orders.
Quote from: sdelsolray on January 08, 2007, 01:37:31 AM
I'd like to see the Larrivee Custom Shop, fully opened and ready to take orders.
:+1:
it would be nice to see this happen again!!
:cheers
Blue
QuoteI'd like to see the Larrivee Custom Shop, fully opened and ready to take orders.
:+1: + :+1:
my current gas for a cutaway with cedar top (C19 vine + cedar top) would be filled nicely
hummmmmmmmm
Ta,
d.
Some electric guitars would be nice...
QuoteThe option of different nut widths on L body guitars
Absolutely.
Quote"There's nothing wrong with Ping tuners."
the only thing wrong with Ping tuners is everything. They are junk and Larrivee CAN and SHOULD do better by their customers by getting rid of them.
My guitar was untunable (is that a word?) due to them and a friend of mine got rid of his Larrivee because it would not hold tune. He got an all-lam Alvarez that he thinks is far superior to his old Larrivee (it is if it will hold tune).
This has been the experience of many. I'm glad you've not had the same troubles though.
Tuning stability has never been an issue with any of my Larrivees and they've all been 03 series, presumably with the "junk" tuners.
Quote from: SongMan on January 08, 2007, 01:58:28 PM
Some electric guitars would be nice...
A agree. Maple LSV thin body. (Make it satin and no flame to keep cost down). 1 Baggs M1 + Some sort of AST. That's it. Just pure durable performers guitar. No T5 clone, but something acoustic but made to play electric stuff too (mostly acoustic still).
Quote from: the_sound_of_acoustic_soul on January 08, 2007, 12:48:11 AM
quote: "There's nothing wrong with Ping tuners."
the only thing wrong with Ping tuners is everything. They are junk and Larrivee CAN and SHOULD do better by their customers by getting rid of them.
My guitar was untunable (is that a word?) due to them and a friend of mine got rid of his Larrivee because it would not hold tune. He got an all-lam Alvarez that he thinks is far superior to his old Larrivee (it is if it will hold tune).
This has been the experience of many. I'm glad you've not had the same troubles though.
I've been playing guitars for over 35 years now, and working as a tech since 1979. Tuners are the first thing in the chain people blame for tuning problems, and almost always the last factor responsible for them. I used to stand by and watch customers tune their freshly set up guitars, using harmonics, sounding the reference string then unknowingly mute it by sounding the next string, turn the tuners for BOTH strings while the second one was ringing, and wonder "why won't this thing tune up?" People are idiots when it comes to tuning guitars. Neither fancy tuning keys nor digital tuners will save them from themselves.
Customers also used to change out original Kluson tuners on pre-CBS Fenders (contrary to strong advice not to) and end up with WORSE tuning problems. Those Klusons were great, inexpensive, efficient tuners, and Larrivee's Pings remind me of them a lot. Sure, they're not as finely geared as some others, but they're perfectly OK. Leo Fender knew what worked for his guitars and so does Jean Larriveé--give them the respect they deserve. I have always suspected the folks who change out Pings on Larrivees do it out of some kind upgrade consciousness and gear snobbery--pimping their axes, if you will--more than any real need for them. Again, make sure nut slots are correctly angled and lubricated, wrap the strings on the posts correctly, learn to tune the guitar to ITSELF rather than a tuner, and leave the damn thing stock--it'll work fine and always be more desriable on the secondary market (where they ALL end up, usually sooner than later).
Quote from: honkytone on January 12, 2007, 12:05:20 PM
I've been playing guitars for over 35 years now, and working as a tech since 1979. Tuners are the first thing in the chain people blame for tuning problems, and almost always the last factor responsible for them. I used to stand by and watch customers tune their freshly set up guitars, using harmonics, sounding the reference string then unknowingly mute it by sounding the next string, turn the tuners for BOTH strings while the second one was ringing, and wonder "why won't this thing tune up?" People are idiots when it comes to tuning guitars. Neither fancy tuning keys nor digital tuners will save them from themselves.
Customers also used to change out original Kluson tuners on pre-CBS Fenders (contrary to strong advice not to) and end up with WORSE tuning problems. Those Klusons were great, inexpensive, efficient tuners, and Larrivee's Pings remind me of them a lot. Sure, they're not as finely geared as some others, but they're perfectly OK. Leo Fender knew what worked for his guitars and so does Jean Larriveé--give them the respect they deserve. I have always suspected the folks who change out Pings on Larrivees do it out of some kind upgrade consciousness and gear snobbery--pimping their axes, if you will--more than any real need for them. Again, make sure nut slots are correctly angled and lubricated, wrap the strings on the posts correctly, learn to tune the guitar to ITSELF rather than a tuner, and leave the damn thing stock--it'll work fine and always be more desriable on the secondary market (where they ALL end up, usually sooner than later).
Well, I have no doubt that there are "idiots" out there who cannot tune a guitar, but I am not one of them.
Pings are JUNK.
Quote from: the_sound_of_acoustic_soul on January 12, 2007, 01:52:35 PM
Pings are JUNK.
If that be the case, can mere chance explain my complete lack of problems with them on over two dozen Larrivees, not to mention the many more I've played casually in stores and at NAMM shows? Very unlikely. That's too great a sample for me to accept the dictum that "Pings are JUNK." Maybe people get spoiled by the response of ultra finely geared tuners, and Pings seem crude by comparison. I know some people on this board think they're substandard, but there's plenty that agree with me that they're a fine, standard equipment tuner. Regardless, one thing's for sure: the premium tuner manufacturers will gladly and forever take a fool's money.
Quote from: the_sound_of_acoustic_soul on January 12, 2007, 01:52:35 PM
Pings are JUNK.
Quote from: honkytone on January 12, 2007, 02:25:08 PM
If that be the case, can mere chance explain my complete lack of problems with them on over two dozen Larrivees, not to mention the many more I've played casually in stores and at NAMM shows? Very unlikely. That's too great a sample for me to accept the dictum that "Pings are JUNK." Maybe people get spoiled by the response of ultra finely geared tuners, and Pings seem crude by comparison. I know some people on this board think they're substandard, but there's plenty that agree with me that they're a fine, standard equipment tuner. Regardless, one thing's for sure: the premium tuner manufacturers will gladly and forever take a fool's money.
honkytone,
I agree - despite the aggressive claims to the contrary, Pings are not junk. I know there are fancier tuners but all I need to do my job are tuners that work. Pings have done the job admirably for me on my several Larrivees in the studio/live/tv and radio/big shows/small shows/whatever
Makes you wonder what some people expect from a set of tuners?
Quote from: balanwood on January 12, 2007, 04:46:34 PM
Makes you wonder what some people expect from a set of tuners?
I expect them to make the guitar hold tune. The only 2 people that I personally know that own or have owned Larrivee guitars have had terrible experiences with the stock Pings. I'm glad that some here have not had the same thing. But, I stand by my statement: Pings are junk.
What would I like to see ?
12 fret, short scale, 1 3/4 nut, rosewood
the nylon crossover sounds great also, once again, short scale, 1 7/8 max nut width
Tasteful :donut inlays also :humour:
Nobody has guessed it yet! :bgrin:
Quote from: guitaradoptions on January 12, 2007, 07:54:26 PM
Nobody has guessed it yet! :bgrin:
OK, OK, time to go in another direction.
Inspired by the English Fylde "Single Malt" guitar, Larrivee is going to make a special run of guitars using North American whiskey barrels. In liu of spruce vs hog, the choice will be Canadian or Kentucky Bourbon whiskey.
It will be a OO-03 "Special Edition" and is guaranteed to improve with age.
The stock Pings aren't the tightest tuners, but I've never had any problem with them. They are no worse than tuner used by any other major manufactures. Of course a 200 dollar waverly set is going to be a more precise and tighter set; but then again, for 200 bones I can get 2 x SM 58's. Hahaha.
It's just diminishing returns. 20 dollars vs 220 dollars for only 5% of difference.
As for New guitars, I want something more versatile and performance oriented. There are enough acoustics in the line up.
Quote from: guitaradoptions on January 12, 2007, 07:54:26 PM
Nobody has guessed it yet! :bgrin:
Would that OM-10 with Mexican Ziricote :drool: :drool:, that I saw on your site be something we'd see at NAMM?
If not, why don't you just tell us. We're all dying to know Dave...
I know what it is: Larrivee is going to announce thier new line of Chinese imported guitars, that are, of course, going to be set up and gone over with a fine-tooth comb here in the USA. I hear that these imported models will come standard with Waverly tuners though. Go figure....
Quote from: guitaradoptions on January 12, 2007, 07:54:26 PM
Nobody has guessed it yet! :bgrin:
:cop:
Time to come clean Dave !!
:cop:
my guess..
Larrivee 40th Anniversary commemorative edition.
All of them will have hand signed labels by Bruce Cockburn... :rolleye:
With cremefilled donut special headstock inlay... :donut :donut2 :gotdonuts:
Quote from: Denis on January 12, 2007, 08:32:19 PM
Would that OM-10 with Mexican Ziricote :drool: :drool:, that I saw on your site be something we'd see at NAMM?
If not, why don't you just tell us. We're all dying to know Dave...
No way!! That one is mine! It's a one of a kind, and in my opinion the best sounding Larrivee I have ever played.
It's on my site at well over list price. :guitar
Quote from: guitaradoptions on January 13, 2007, 09:52:31 AM
No way!! That one is mine! It's a one of a kind, and in my opinion the best sounding Larrivee I have ever played.
It's on my site at well over list price. :guitar
Still waiting Dave...come clean or we'll, we'll...damn...just tell...please???? :crying: :crying: :crying:
Well, I can pretty safely guarantee no new 03 models, thats for sure. In fact, there may be a few less!
Quote from: guitaradoptions on January 13, 2007, 10:42:55 AM
Well, I can pretty safely guarantee no new 03 models, thats for sure. In fact, there may be a few less!
Dave, Are you going to make us wait till Thursday? At least keep the hints coming.
O.K. Dave....I've read the 3 page thread so far....no new 03's, no Koa, no OO's or OOO's or LS or LSV's, commemoratives, donut inlaid models or nylon cross overs..or Taylor-like T-5's either....
Perhaps a resurrection of the Jumbo or a new 12 string??? If so, whew, as I'd GAS for neither of those models but Jean's newer Parlor models with new to Larry wood types quilted mahogany etc. are enticing....
"But wait...theres more"......a RETURN of Blackwood?
How many donuts do we need to deliver to you Dave for more hints? :donut :donut :donut :donut :donut :donut :donut :donut
Rick
Quote from: guitaradoptions on January 13, 2007, 10:42:55 AMWell, I can pretty safely guarantee no new 03 models, thats for sure. In fact, there may be a few less!
Hmmm, why am I starting to dread the news?
OK, they've decided to close the Canadian line, and California will focus on high-end D45 variants ....
Or could it be that they're converting Canada back to gloss, and bringing back the -04 ....
Quote from: Miata13 on January 13, 2007, 11:13:36 AM
O.K. Dave....I've read the 3 page thread so far....no new 03's, no Koa, no OO's or OOO's or LS or LSV's, commemoratives, donut inlaid models or nylon cross overs..or Taylor-like T-5's either....
Perhaps a resurrection of the Jumbo or a new 12 string??? If so, whew, as I'd GAS for neither of those models but Jean's newer Parlor models with new to Larry wood types quilted mahogany etc. are enticing....
"But wait...theres more"......a RETURN of Blackwood?
How many donuts do we need to deliver to you Dave for more hints? :donut :donut :donut :donut :donut :donut :donut :donut
Rick
Try Lobster Tail! :wink:
Ok, fine... here's a sneak peak!
(http://www.guitaradoptions.com/07namm.jpg)
:laughin:
OK DAVE . . . You are having way too much fun with this, aren't you? Your just laughing your A$$ off. Right?
Oh ya That dounut thing is just wrong. Funny but wrong.
Less 03 models would be a shame.
the 03SP would most likely go as they are all sappelle now.... there's a few gone with no change......
Ta,
d.
Quote from: guitaradoptions on January 13, 2007, 10:42:55 AM
Well, I can pretty safely guarantee no new 03 models, thats for sure. In fact, there may be a few less!
Less better mean streamlining by making only Ds, OMs and Ls, no cutaways, and only in an 03 and 03R...it had better not mean ending the Vancouver line altogether...tell us that at least Dave, tell us that they will make satin finish guitars in Vancouver for many more years to come???? Please???? :?
tick ... tick ... tick ...
...so much gear I'm waiting to hear about from NAMM (Larrivee's for sure, but lots of other stuff, too!)...
tick ... tick ... tick ...
:rolleye:
QuoteTry Lobster Tail!
Hmmm.....
Lobster tail is red.....
Perhaps we'll see a Redwood guitar?
Quote from: Denis on January 13, 2007, 07:41:49 PM
Less better mean streamlining by making only Ds, OMs and Ls, no cutaways, and only in an 03 and 03R...it had better not mean ending the Vancouver line altogether...tell us that at least Dave, tell us that they will make satin finish guitars in Vancouver for many more years to come???? Please???? :?
No worries about that Denis! Vancouver will be around for a long time!
Quote from: guitaradoptions on January 14, 2007, 09:09:43 AM
No worries about that Denis! Vancouver will be around for a long time!
whew!!!!! :thumb