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Title: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: mrrinse on April 25, 2006, 02:35:37 PM
Hi,
My recent acquisition of a Taylor 510 (with Grover Rotomatic tuners, I think) has made me realise how much I don't get on with my Larrivee pings (especially given a lot of switching between tunings) on my L-05MT and LV-09.

I do really like the look of the Pings though, size / shape / ebonoid buttons (chrome finish, not nickel ... right?).

Can anyone recommend easy drop in replacement (i.e. no new holes - i'd like the option to go back to pings if necessary). I've heard good things about Gotoh 510s but gather there expensive (are we aloud to talk about prices of these as they're not new Larrivee guitars...?). The Grovers seem pretty sweet to me - especially since you can get locking Grovers and 18:1 Grovers ... so is there any reason why I should pay extra for the Gotohs?

Ideally I'd like to get (at some point) ebony / ebonoid buttons for them, similar in shae ot the Pings.

Shaller seem to have fallen out of favour with many these days. Are there any other options I'm overlooking.

Also, if anyone can recommend a cheap supplier. I am in the UK, but international purchases can work out cheaper.

Thanks,
Dan
Title: Re: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: jankymutt on April 25, 2006, 02:48:28 PM
I really want a set of Gotoh 510's for my LV also, but $90 is a lot of coin for a set of tuners.  It just seems like a silly use of a hundred bucks.  I guess if you have the cash, go for it. 
Title: Re: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: mrrinse on April 25, 2006, 03:03:29 PM
Too true. It's not like the improvement affects tone or playability.

Seem to be around £50 a set in the UK for the 510s. Grover Rotomatics 18:1 c.£37; £52 for the locking Grovers.

That's basically £100 ($175) if I did both guitars. Ouch. That's 1/2 or 1/3 of a second hand parlour (which'd be much more fun!).

Hmm... Still, something I'd like to get round to one day (like many others!).

Dan
Title: Re: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: kdonovan on April 25, 2006, 07:13:15 PM
Pricey but so cool looking. :SHK>
kdonovan

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Title: Re: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: mrrinse on April 25, 2006, 07:59:17 PM
Sweet. Do you have a "frontal" shot as well...
droool...

Dan
Title: Re: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: kdonovan on April 25, 2006, 08:17:51 PM
Here you go
kdonovan

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Title: Re: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: mrrinse on April 25, 2006, 08:26:28 PM
v naughty!

thanks.
Title: Re: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: Ratishna on April 25, 2006, 08:36:14 PM
Straight from the 60s:  Black is Beautiful.  Or in this case, perhaps an acquired taste.

E. Shoaf
Title: Re: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: Brett Valentine on April 28, 2006, 08:42:22 PM
I definitely think the 510's are worth it.  Oh, and there are tonal advantages, more precise tuning.  Definitely makes it easier to tune by ear in my experience. 

Brett
Title: Re: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: danijoe on April 29, 2006, 07:00:50 AM
I've heard that the diameter of the hole already drilled in the Larrivee for the tuners is different than what is needed for Gotoh 510's and a sleeve must be put in. Does anyone know if this is true?

Joe
Title: Re: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: Redeemed on April 29, 2006, 08:06:09 AM
Quote from: danijoe on April 29, 2006, 07:00:50 AM
I've heard that the diameter of the hole already drilled in the Larrivee for the tuners is different than what is needed for Gotoh 510's and a sleeve must be put in. Does anyone know if this is true?

Joe


That's definitely not true...  the 510's are direct drop-ins.. probably easier to do than a bone saddle upgrade.


-dan
Title: Re: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: danijoe on April 29, 2006, 02:10:50 PM
Thanks - that makes me feel better. I'm going with Gotoh's soon for my LSV-11E.

Joe
Title: Re: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: didymus21 on April 29, 2006, 03:07:35 PM
Quote from: jankymutt on April 25, 2006, 02:48:28 PM
I really want a set of Gotoh 510's for my LV also, but $90 is a lot of coin for a set of tuners.  It just seems like a silly use of a hundred bucks.  I guess if you have the cash, go for it. 

The Gotoh 510's are a great gift list item for say...Christmas.....birthdays.....

And of course, like Kdonovan says...they are beautiful!

Here is a thread I posted awhile back of a complete install of Gotoh 510's.  They come with the kidney bean tuner buttons, but I think if you swap those out with the Schaller-style buttons it'll keep that larrivee feel for you.

Install post:

http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=9747.0

Schaller-style button swap:

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1775/dsc000079tm6lq.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3517/dsc000763fl5wm.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
I know this picture makes the buttons looks HUGE...but it's just an illusion


Can't beat that!






Title: Re: New tuners: Grovers, Gotohs, ... ?
Post by: kdonovan on April 29, 2006, 03:30:01 PM
Sweet looking guitar didy :SHK>

kdonovan