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Title: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: sixpickn on April 20, 2006, 05:46:06 PM
I'd like to take a poll.   :GRN>

This is the best picture available of this distant piece, and as there is some controversy as to the topwood, in your estimation is it cedar or spruce?  many thanks.

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Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: NewStrings on April 20, 2006, 05:49:22 PM
Nicely aged SPRUCE.  The orange hue developed with time---this is a vintage Larrivee.

NewStrings
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: roknroll on April 20, 2006, 05:53:59 PM
I dunno, looks like mastergrade cedar.  If it's not, then that is the tightest, straightest grained spruce I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: Randy_R on April 20, 2006, 05:55:47 PM
Larrivee used red cedar for some tops I believe.
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: LookingForLarri on April 20, 2006, 05:58:13 PM
Looks like cedar to me.  Ebony at the top though  :GRN>
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: solarbean on April 20, 2006, 09:03:11 PM
My guess is cedar. Rosewood back.
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: Michael K on April 21, 2006, 09:28:17 AM
Looks a lot like my Cedar topped Morgan.  I'm voting Cedar.
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: ronmac on April 21, 2006, 12:35:19 PM
My vote is spruce. Looks just like my old L.


Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: CF Larrivee on April 21, 2006, 12:39:16 PM
My guess is cedar.
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: poki on April 21, 2006, 01:13:19 PM
does cedar ever form the meguliary rays evident in the pic (sp) like spruce? 
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: ronmac on April 21, 2006, 01:46:33 PM
Quote from: poki on April 21, 2006, 01:13:19 PM
does cedar ever form the meguliary rays evident in the pic (sp) like spruce? 

Yes!

But I still think it is spruce.  :WNK>
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: jwieties on April 21, 2006, 05:27:13 PM
Not much to go by, but I would say spruce.

-josh
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: strive2walk on April 21, 2006, 05:49:51 PM
In my experience nylon stringed guitars have cedar tops.  However I have seen spruce that color, but it clearly is a classical. Beautiful rosette.
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: ronmac on April 21, 2006, 06:03:08 PM
Quote from: strive2walk on April 21, 2006, 05:49:51 PM
In my experience nylon stringed guitars have cedar tops.  However I have seen spruce that color, but it clearly is a classical. Beautiful rosette.

Welcome to the Forum.

That rosette was used on larrivee steel string guitars for many years. Jean got his start making classical instruments and many of the early appointments spoke to that.

Steel String Spruce!  :WNK> Sorry about the alliteration.
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: jwieties on April 21, 2006, 06:10:31 PM
True Ron... but this is a classical.  It's the classical fret board and the strings are nylon. 

Wouldn't surprise me if it were cedar, but tought to tell from the picture.

-josh

and welcome to the forum strive2walk!!!
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: ronmac on April 21, 2006, 06:37:23 PM
:<>OOOPPPSSS :rolleyes:

I was concentrating so hard on the top that I missed the obvious clues that it is a classical.

So, I am revising my alliterated comment to: Soft String Spruce  :WNK>
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: NewStrings on April 21, 2006, 06:40:23 PM
Hummm, I'm still sticking with SPRUCE.  I'm with Ron on this one.... classical I will agree, but cedar, not necessarily.  As the picture below shows, here is a nice vintage Larrivee classical with a spruce top.  Still say it's awfully hard to tell from the tiny picture of the top supplied.

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Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: Jean Larrivee on April 21, 2006, 06:43:32 PM
Ahh yes, I remember having a hand in each of these lovely classicals.  The contraversy over the first piece can be ended by knowing it's western red cedar.  I hope you can all sleep better at night now ^_^.  The piece above this post has a canadian sitka spruce soundboard. 

~Jean
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: NewStrings on April 21, 2006, 06:46:26 PM
In case anyone wants to look at the specs for the above guitar, it can be found at:  http://www.12fret.com/used/index.html  Just sroll down to the classical section and you will find this 1974 with European Spruce.  Here is the link to the detailed top:  http://www.12fret.com/used/larriveeClassical1974tp.jpg

NewStrings
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: ronmac on April 21, 2006, 07:29:15 PM
Quote from: Jean Larrivee on April 21, 2006, 06:43:32 PM
Ahh yes, I remember having a hand in each of these lovely classicals.  The contraversy over the first piece can be ended by knowing it's western red cedar.  I hope you can all sleep better at night now ^_^.  The piece above this post has a canadian sitka spruce soundboard. 

~Jean

I'll take his word for it!  :UND>

Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: poki on April 21, 2006, 10:51:30 PM
Very interesting.  Jean please don't be a stranger  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: LookingForLarri on April 21, 2006, 10:58:58 PM
Where are our manners,

Welcome Jean !!

and Thank You.
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: didymus21 on April 22, 2006, 12:04:56 AM
Quote from: Jean Larrivee on April 21, 2006, 06:43:32 PM
Ahh yes, I remember having a hand in each of these lovely classicals.  The contraversy over the first piece can be ended by knowing it's western red cedar.  I hope you can all sleep better at night now ^_^.  The piece above this post has a canadian sitka spruce soundboard. 

~Jean


Is this actually Jean Larrivee?  At first I thought it was a new member's attempt at a very unique screen name.
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: Jean Larrivee on April 22, 2006, 12:14:06 AM
april fools!
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: didymus21 on April 22, 2006, 01:32:50 AM
Quote from: Jean Larrivee on April 22, 2006, 12:14:06 AM
april fools!

That still hasn't quite answered my question  :GRN>
Title: Re: Cedar or Spruce
Post by: UK Mike on April 22, 2006, 10:26:26 AM
It is definitely cedar. Absolutely no doubt about it.

Mike