Main Forums => Other Guitar Makers => Topic started by: roknroll on February 23, 2006, 12:10:49 AM

Title: This is to sad.
Post by: roknroll on February 23, 2006, 12:10:49 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Legend-Guitar-Company-Custom-Guitar_W0QQitemZ7392467260QQcategoryZ2385QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: boyds on February 23, 2006, 12:25:10 AM
OUCH!!!! :<> :<> :<> :<> :<>Poor Guitar... :<> :<>
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: digital on February 23, 2006, 12:26:51 AM
Sure is... :<>

But $80 for shipping?
Are they worried it might get damage?
Maybe its to pack it carefully
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: lestrouble on February 23, 2006, 01:11:46 AM
this happen to my old epiphone PR-5E acoustic....man i was depressed for week...I can feel the pain while looking at it.
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: mazareth on February 23, 2006, 12:05:25 PM
What a horrilbe fate for such a beautiful instrument!  :<> I wonder what it would cost to repair that damage? My buddy Ruben has a 25 year old Yairi that this happened to about 15 years ago. The repair is barely noticable and seems to be stable. Maybe a decent deal for someone who can do their own work. :huh:
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: roknroll on February 23, 2006, 12:08:07 PM
"What a horrilbe fate for such a beautiful instrument!  I wonder what it would cost to repair that damage? My buddy Ruben has a 25 year old Yairi that this happened to about 15 years ago. The repair is barely noticable and seems to be stable. Maybe a decent deal for someone who can do their own work."

I was thinking the exact same thing. The guitar looks brand new other than the neck "problem".  If it stays at $399 asking price, I think that's a really good deal.  The body of the guitar looks perfect.
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: jmhyer on February 23, 2006, 12:58:56 PM
I had that exact thing happen to me recently with a Taylor 410.  It physically hurt to open the case and look at it! :<>
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: Ratishna on February 23, 2006, 01:03:40 PM
Not difficult to fix for a competent luthier.  Rest of guitar looks fine.

E. Shoaf
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: jmhyer on February 23, 2006, 03:12:22 PM
Quote from: Ratishna on February 23, 2006, 01:03:40 PMNot difficult to fix for a competent luthier. Rest of guitar looks fine.

E. Shoaf

Your comment brings up a good question...Can this be adequately repaired??  I was told by Taylor that the whole neck would need to be replaced.  I didn't check with any other sources to confirm (or refute) this.

Addendum:  I forgot to mention that Taylor quoted me $1000 USD to replace the neck, which seemed a bit steep to me.
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: JasonA on February 23, 2006, 03:30:09 PM
It would be ugly no doubt, but I'm sure it's repairable. If it had been a bolt-on guitar like a Taylor, replacing the neck with another off the assembly line would be a much better solution.
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: roknroll on February 23, 2006, 03:32:30 PM
$80 for shipping? They don't allow local pickup? Something seems fishy here.  I'm no sherlock holms, but it looks like they like to make a little profit off of shipping charges.  Wierd.
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: fitness1 on February 23, 2006, 03:36:21 PM
the reason I wouldn't touch it is "we have noone to answer emails"   Not only do they not want to fully disclose what's wrong with their "junkie auctions"  they don't want you to be able to ask questions......I wouldn't  touch it with a ten foot pole...it could have cracks all over the body to for all you know.  It was listed last week at 499 and received no bids....
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: jimmyd on February 23, 2006, 03:51:50 PM
Forget them. For $175.00 plus shipping I will smash any part of my Durango  slope dread to your specifications and will carelessly pack for shipment for no extra charge. Don't ask questions. Just send me the money.
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: lleo on February 23, 2006, 04:00:38 PM
Pay attention to eBay folks, it's plenty of screwers.
The pumped shipping cost it's something you usually find on electronic stuff like mp3 players and so on: you read a 5$ price, and 40$ for the shipping.
I wonder if there's still any dumb bidding on those auctions.
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: NotRevGDavis on February 24, 2006, 12:41:16 AM
If the Legend was driving the same seller has the passenger  :UND>
http://cgi.ebay.com/Taylor-Leo-Kottke-LKSM-12-String-Guitar-Unused_W0QQitemZ7392777062QQcategoryZ33031QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: Calvin on February 24, 2006, 01:55:10 PM
Quote from: Ratishna on February 23, 2006, 01:03:40 PM
Not difficult to fix for a competent luthier.  Rest of guitar looks fine.

E. Shoaf

I agree, but which one of us is a competent luthier :UND>?  Or wants to take that chance for that matter.

There is a counter point to this though, Hendrix (if I remember right) used to break his neck (er... guitar necks) and had it reglued to get a stiffer neck, resulting in a guitar with better tone... and a stiffer neck.
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: drathbun on February 25, 2006, 01:30:15 PM
Nice clean break. Should be an easy fix.
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Post by: ronmac on February 25, 2006, 02:29:57 PM
I would buy this, if they shipped to Canada. I sent an email stating that, but as they promised, no reply...
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: roknroll on February 25, 2006, 02:59:50 PM
You would think that the body alone, would be worth at least $1000.  That is, if it's in excellent condition. It would probably cost around $150-$200 to fix the neck...setting you back about $600 for the whole guitar.  You could probably turn around and sell it for around $900-1000(maybe more)once it's fixed.  That leaves a decent profit margin.  Or just keep it as a really really nice beater(if you could even call it that, seems a little nicer than the average beater!).  Who knows though, it could have finish cracks, dings, cracks in the body, all OVER it. It would definately be a risk if you are trying to make some cash off of it.  This could potentially bring someone a pretty nice profit though!  Do you guys ever watch antique road show?  Something that needs restored might only be worth around $1000...let's say it costs about $300 to restore the object...The restored objects value is now sitting around$2000-2500 to all potential buyers.  Very nice profit indeed.  Most people don't want to take the time to buy something, and have to restore it.  I've been buying stuff at low prices, then reselling at high prices for a while now.  It has helped me pay for college and other expenses.  Does anyone else like to do this?  Whoever mentioned the thing about Jimi Hendrix breaking his guitar necks to make them stronger is on to something.  You could definately use that as a sales gimmick to sell this guitar for a lot. 
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: Calvin on February 25, 2006, 10:39:49 PM
Glue is stronger than the wood itself.  Apprently that was a bit thing with strats to break necks and reglue them back then.  But I guess it would pretty much kill the value unless the person doing the break is Jimmy himself.
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: kwakatak on February 26, 2006, 01:05:52 AM
Quote from: jmhyer on February 23, 2006, 03:12:22 PM
Your comment brings up a good question...Can this be adequately repaired??  I was told by Taylor that the whole neck would need to be replaced.  I didn't check with any other sources to confirm (or refute) this.

Addendum:  I forgot to mention that Taylor quoted me $1000 USD to replace the neck, which seemed a bit steep to me.

jmhyer, this isn't the first time I've heard of this about Taylor guitars. There was a thread at Harmony-Central (now deleted at the original poster's request due to personal reasons) that documented a similar situation with one of their higher-end Koa models. Does it really cost that much to unbolt the old borken neck and bolt on a different one that's in pristine condition?  :huh:
Title: Re: This is to sad.
Post by: Calvin on February 26, 2006, 04:09:41 AM
Quote from: kwakatak on February 26, 2006, 01:05:52 AM
jmhyer, this isn't the first time I've heard of this about Taylor guitars. There was a thread at Harmony-Central (now deleted at the original poster's request due to personal reasons) that documented a similar situation with one of their higher-end Koa models. Does it really cost that much to unbolt the old borken neck and bolt on a different one that's in pristine condition?  :huh:

Of course not, especially if you are looking for one with no inlay.  I think a realistic cost to Taylor would be under $100, assuming processing fee is another $150 (that's a typical artisan working 1 entire day) they price would still only be $250.  But then again, name me a Taylor that isn't over priced.