Remember when these where the best capo, well I thought they were good.
Dunlop Capo
(http://images.craigslist.org/01414_6In3QaWCFad_600x450.jpg)
Anybody else have pics of some of the older style capo's?
Ewww, I remember when folks had those barely.
My first capo was a Dunlop trigger capo (1995 or so). Later I got a Kyser. Now I use a Kyser 12-string for everything except my Rainsong 12 which needs more clamping force.
I still have one of those capos in the picture (I originally mistakenly called it a trigger capo)... and one of the elastic band ones. Now it's Shubb. Every time I get a guitar, I get another Shubb to throw in the case.
Ed
I had several of them and, especially the adjustable ones, they were a vast improvement on what else was available unless you broke the bank and bought a Shubb. :laughin:
Trigger capos damage guitar head stocks and turned my Yamaha into a YA AHA. :yak:
These days, I have a Shubb, a G7 among various others but I prefer the Planet Waves NS capo for being light, effective and easy to use. :thumb
I have a traditional style Shubb. It's actually the only kind of capo I've ever used. Supposedly Shubb has a different style out too. But I'm sticking to what I have. It works fine, and why mess with what works? (Or maybe that the old "we fear change" thing in me! :ohmy: :laughin:)
Back when I use to use a capo I had the one pictured also had one of those large rubber one with the braided wrap that needed to be pull so you could attach the eyelid to the post,I have used Shubb and Kyser but I no longer use any capo's and I have no idea were in my home the last one live's.
G7
Anybody have one of these?
Hamilton Capo
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/daddyo12453/IMG_1669.jpg~original) (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/daddyo12453/media/IMG_1669.jpg.html)
yep
Quote from: Mr_LV19E on March 25, 2016, 05:31:33 PM
Anybody have one of these?
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/daddyo12453/IMG_1669.jpg~original) (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/daddyo12453/media/IMG_1669.jpg.html)
Yes. The felt wore off long ago.
I bet (in addition to the Shubbs), I have dozen or more other capos around. And that doesn't include the 3 or 4 guitars out on long term loan!
Ed
Yeah, another guitar killer if you're not careful with it. Like eded, if I looked in enough drawers and boxes, I'd find a lot of capos that I've used over the years.
Quote from: ducktrapper on March 24, 2016, 07:18:45 AM
...but I prefer the Planet Waves NS capo for being light, effective and easy to use. :thumb
:+1: on the Planet Waves NS capo. Inexpensive and easy to use, doesn't throw the guitar out of tune with too much clamping pressure. People like sticking the Kyser on the headstock. but I just tighten the NS over the top of the strings at the nut when not in use, then it's right there when I need it. :thumbsup
Quote from: Mikeymac on March 26, 2016, 07:57:46 PM
:+1: on the Planet Waves NS capo. Inexpensive and easy to use, doesn't throw the guitar out of tune with too much clamping pressure. People like sticking the Kyser on the headstock. but I just tighten the NS over the top of the strings at the nut when not in use, then it's right there when I need it. :thumbsup
:+1: This boats getting crowded... :bgrin:
Quote from: Mikeymac on March 26, 2016, 07:57:46 PM
:+1: on the Planet Waves NS capo. Inexpensive and easy to use, doesn't throw the guitar out of tune with too much clamping pressure. People like sticking the Kyser on the headstock. but I just tighten the NS over the top of the strings at the nut when not in use, then it's right there when I need it. :thumbsup
I've never had a problem with Shubbs and tuning. And I only wear shirts with pockets. That way I don't need to clamp anything on the headstock or on the nut.
I think the take away here is, there are any number of capos out there (including the slightly "improved" versions of existing designs). Most are about the cost of 2-3 string changes. Try a couple or few. Keep the ones you don't like for song circles... Lend them to the person who forgot theirs... and then forget to pack it up when you leave. Lol! I'm willing to bet the people with a preference have been through several.
Ed
I have a Kyser and it is very easy to place and I usually do not have to adjust it. It just plants itself and your good to go.
I recently purchase a Planet Waves NS Artist Capo with NS Micro Tuner. It is a little more "picky" as to the placement to avoid buzzing or even catching the 1st or 6th string. Once I got the tension adjusted it improved a lot. I really like the tension adjustment vs. the Kyser even though the tension on the Kyser is pretty much perfect.
The tuner clinches it or me. It is so cool, that once you clamp the capo down, you can immediately check the tuning.
So far, my L-03 has been in perfect tune when using the capo.
Well my favorite is the NS but I also like the Page.
The thread title is kind of a joke, I was hoping to see some pictures of what others have used in the olden days.
Sorry I cannot contribute to the "classic capo" subject. I just started using them! :laughin: :beer :guitar
Now it's multiple Shubbs (sometimes a Spyder (http://www.spidercapo.com)), but I used those Dunlop ones a lot last century, along with this beast:
Quote from: skyline on March 29, 2016, 01:47:02 PM
Now it's multiple Shubbs (sometimes a Spyder (http://www.spidercapo.com)), but I used those Dunlop ones a lot last century, along with this beast:
Never seen one of those.
Quote from: skyline on March 29, 2016, 01:47:02 PM
Now it's multiple Shubbs (sometimes a Spyder (http://www.spidercapo.com)), but I used those Dunlop ones a lot last century, along with this beast:
There's one of the Asian mail-order companies I get online catalogs from that has these for about $3.
At that price, I almost feel bad *not* getting one. Lol!
Ed
Quote from: eded on March 29, 2016, 08:13:22 PMThere's one of the Asian mail-order companies I get online catalogs from that has these for about $3.
At that price, I almost feel bad *not* getting one. Lol!
Ed
Well they certainly aren't Shubbs! But it was a lot easier to use than the strap-and-groove Dunlops - and it's still functional.
I guess after using the same mold for at least thirty-five years the R&D is paid for :wink:, so it's just the cost of the nylon.
If the price doesn't convince you - maybe this guy will:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmYOu8bIY74 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmYOu8bIY74)
Can't understand what he's saying, but he's a good salesman. I watched a couple of his other videos. He seems like a pretty cool guy.
I have another POV to toss in.
decades of different capo's has led me now to this.
http://www.g7th.com/home.aspx
And my sales pitch joke...
What's the first thing you do when you put on a capo? Tune your guitar.
What's the first thing you do when you take OFF your capo? retune your guitar.
It stands to reason most (if not all ) capos, will pull the pitch sharp to some degree.. The ONLY I have found to get around this, is, to learn to be a better guitar player to not need a capo.
The second option I have found with the link I posted, is that product.
Simple, no springs.
The Schubb is good, (best of the bunch) but sometimes won't work with a wider neck, and if you use different guitars on stage the preset (knurled knob) had to be adjusted, for each guitar and/or fret (depending).
I first took one home for a week-end a couple years ago on spec. tried it on several guitars, acoustic and electric, and, because of the design, the guitars didn't go out of tune or pull sharp, not even one string.
I was sold.
and when I am forced to use a capo for different voicings, this one never lets me down.
yes a bit pricey, but on srage, there is no hesitation of having to adjust the tuning of any guitar.
for my money (and time) that matters a great deal....
foot note to my last post.
the "voicing" reason for using capo's to me, is a very good justification.
a few years ago, I accompanied a woman vocalist who wanted the songs in the key they were recorded in with the same voicings, which meant a capo.
All was fine until we got to a gig, and i had forgotten my capo.
I told her there was no problem and i could do the songs fine.
she got mad and stomped out, only to return a few minutes later with several different sizez of rubber bands and pens' pencils etc, and proceeded to MAKE me a capo so she could have her "voicings"
ya gotta do what ya gotta do I guess....
Wow! I just won a satin black, G7th Performance 2 custom engraved capo over on AGF! :nana_guitar
Quote from: headsup on April 03, 2016, 06:26:19 PMthe "voicing" reason for using capo's to me, is a very good justification.
voicing for sure, both in the harmonic sense and in the "piano sense" - capoing changes how the open strings and harmonics ring, often giving the same guitar very different timbres.
Quote from: markj on April 03, 2016, 06:44:27 PM
Wow! I just won a satin black, G7th Performance 2 custom engraved capo over on AGF! :nana_guitar
:+1: Good for you... :nanadance :nanadance Bob
Quote from: skyline on April 03, 2016, 08:05:44 PM
voicing for sure, both in the harmonic sense and in the "piano sense" - capoing changes how the open strings and harmonics ring, often giving the same guitar very different timbres.
I can't find any "partial" capos on the G 7th pages - do you know if they make them?
I don't know if they make them, but most of the partial capos I've seen are stock capos that people have modified (i.e. cut pieces off of).
Ed
Quote from: eded on April 04, 2016, 08:40:31 AM
I don't know if they make them, but most of the partial capos I've seen are stock capos that people have modified (i.e. cut pieces off of).
Ed
In the Newport series they have partials and a banjo capo - only "plain" in the performance series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmwlgSyyhlY
Quote from: skyline on April 04, 2016, 09:39:53 AM
In the Newport series they have partials and a banjo capo - only "plain" in the performance series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmwlgSyyhlY
I just did a quick google search. There are bunches of pages for them, but this one shows a bunch of them by various makers. Some are pretty interesting.
http://www.partialcapo.com/devices.htm
Ed
Picked up a G7th Newport today - it's great.
It's a breeze to put on and affects tuning even less than the Shubb. As you can see it's also a little wider than the Shubb so it works on an SD-03 in more positions - I used to have to use the 12 string Shubb on the SD.
I like Kysers when I let the the bridge side of the pad push the strings not the fret wire. I lost my shubb, preferred that on m electrics, replaced with an adjustable ,g7th which has nice low profile for keeping out of the way of the fretting hand
Quote from: headsup on April 03, 2016, 06:26:19 PM
foot note to my last post.
the "voicing" reason for using capo's to me, is a very good justification.
Especially in the studio; you can save people a lot of time (s.k.a. money) by quickly "doubling up" a track with the same mic/guitar but using a capo to get a different voicing - leave's the producer with an extra "sonic view".
A lot of guitar's have hidden characters that can be coaxed out with a capo . . .
Quote from: eded on April 04, 2016, 08:40:31 AM
I don't know if they make them, but most of the partial capos I've seen are stock capos that people have modified (i.e. cut pieces off of).
Ed
I know that Shubb makes three and five string capos, the former for DADGAD playing and the latter for drop-E. I've been thinking about getting a couple, especially the 5-string because I worry a bit about damage to the neck using a regular capo offset.
Quote from: Paraclete on April 30, 2016, 10:29:39 AM
I know that Shubb makes three and five string capos, the former for DADGAD playing and the latter for drop-E. I've been thinking about getting a couple, especially the 5-string because I worry a bit about damage to the neck using a regular capo offset.
The Shubb partials work fine on 1 3/4 or "narrower" - they're a bit fiddly on 1 7/8
G7th does make a 3 string partial, and a 5 string partial in their Newport line:
http://www.g7th.com/newport-6.aspx (http://www.g7th.com/newport-6.aspx)
http://www.g7th.com/newport-7.aspx (http://www.g7th.com/newport-7.aspx)
I have one of these in the ol' box of guitar bits I can't bring myself to toss out. These days I'm partial to Kyser but I honestly tire of the debate over who makes the best capo. Different strokes . . .
My answer to "the best capo" is the one in arms reach whenever you happen to need one. . . :nana_guitar
Quote from: jpmist on May 14, 2016, 01:34:17 PM
My answer to "the best capo" is the one in arms reach whenever you happen to need one. . . :nana_guitar
Yeah, this.
Ed
Quote from: skyline on May 13, 2016, 09:44:30 PM
The Shubb partials work fine on 1 3/4 or "narrower" - they're a bit fiddly on 1 7/8
G7th does make a 3 string partial, and a 5 string partial in their Newport line:
http://www.g7th.com/newport-6.aspx (http://www.g7th.com/newport-6.aspx)
http://www.g7th.com/newport-7.aspx (http://www.g7th.com/newport-7.aspx)
That's a good thing to consider about the neck width. Hadn't thought about that. Actually, I think the LSV is a 1 13/16. I've got only two capos as it is, one of which is too narrow to use higher up the neck.
I am sold on Paige capos. I like that they stay on the instrument at all times and just roll behind the nut. I have an older one from probably about ten years ago that I like better than my newer one though. The old one has a high-quality rubber contact material where the newer one has a more shiny, hard-ish plastic kind. It might be stronger but looks cheaper, though doesn't cost any less. I used Kysers for years but got tired of having them decorate the headstock. Don't get me started on people leaving electronic tuners on the headstock while they play. . .
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I changed the subject line because the Idea of the thread was to get others to post pictures of older style capos that they have used in the past. It was never meant to be "about the best capo", I just named the thread that to draw in participants. I forgot that some people just read the thread title and comment so my bad.
But if anyone has any pictures of capo's that have not been shown please post a pic, I know there has to be something odd looking out there. :bgrin:
Back in the '70s, I too had the Dunlop and Hamilton models already posted. The Dunlop would always seem to pop off in the middle of songs. Perhaps that's why some folks called them "trigger" capos? :tongue: And the spring in the Hamilton was so strong I was always afraid it was going to crush my neck. :blush:
I also had this one:
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img923/4020/YKUeqx.jpg)
You would put it around the neck of the guitar with the upper bar open, then swing the bar around and hook it on the latch. Then you would tighten it by ratcheting up on the lever on the bottom. That lever was flat on 3 sides so you could get different tensions depending on which position you stopped on. Oh, and the rubber piece was four sided with different heights to each side so it could be flipped around to best suit your particular guitar. It was about as a big a PIA as it sounds, and the tension was always too loose or too tight.
I had this one too:
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img924/8721/EQQghN.jpg)
Can't remember who made it, but it was an interesting concept. Those two metal clips bisecting the top bar were supposed to sit between the 1st and 2nd and the 5th and 6th strings. You were supposed slide the capo into position by bumping those two clips up against the back of the fret on which you wanted the capo. Then you would tighten the thumbscrew on the bottom to hold it in place. The idea was that the clips would align the capo so that the rubber piece would clamp down precisely on top of the fret rather than behind it. (The rubber piece was actually two thin pieces. One piece would push down on top of the fret as I noted, and the other a half inch or so behind it.) The theory (IIRC) was that clamping down directly on the fret was supposed to eliminate intonation problems, as you could tighten the thumbscrew just enough for the strings to sound cleanly but not enough to go out of tune.
And yeah, that one also worked about as well as you can imagine. Those slots you see that the clips ride in were so you could adjust the spacing of the clips and were necessary because the spacing of guitar strings typically changes as you move up the neck. So you had to readjust the clips every time you wanted to move the capo to a different fret position. Luckily the top bar could be disassembled and the clips removed and thrown in the garbage where they belonged. Once that was done, one had oneself a fairly decent Planet Waves/D'Addario style capo decades before those actually appeared. :winkin:
Those are some good examples, haven't seen either before.
Regarding JamesN 's second photo.... I use Kyser capos like that with the pad resting on the strings on top of the fret wire, but just the edge of the pad. This puts the clamping force thru the fret itself rather than stretching the strings. It takes a little practice t apply it this way, but it removes one of the major complaints about Kyser and other spring loaded capos, that being that they pull the strings sharp.
Quote from: skyline on May 17, 2016, 10:56:46 AM
Wow - that second one looks like it might work well with this guitar:
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1001278_220118501445232_254984147_n.jpg?oh=b33589eda299aed168c337e6dde57b1d&oe=57A4BDF0)
It looks like a time machine. :ph34r:
My first one was a pencil and rubber band. First harmonica holder, a coat hanger. (back when they were metal)
Quote from: skyline on April 28, 2016, 09:41:31 PM
A lot of guitar's have hidden characters that can be coaxed out with a capo . . .
That is especially true of my SD. The higher I capo, the stronger the overtones. No capo, no overtones
Quote from: flatlander on May 26, 2016, 08:26:34 AM
My first one was a pencil and rubber band. First harmonica holder, a coat hanger. (back when they were metal)
I made my first harmonica holder from a coat hanger also.
Quote from: broKen on May 28, 2016, 12:11:52 AM
That is especially true of my SD. The higher I capo, the stronger the overtones. No capo, no overtones
Yes! And the attack really changes too, more pop at the start.
Then there's the "tune down / capo up" trick. Shifts an SD from piano ring to pipe organ pedals oomph
Then there's the baritone guitar. Sort of like a reverse capo.