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Title: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: 247hoopsfan on June 30, 2010, 06:30:01 PM
Ronmac's JCL 40th Anniversary guitar sure looks nice on the Home page.  Matter of fact, it looks just like mine. :cheers

I can tell you first hand, they sound better than they look.
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: cke on June 30, 2010, 08:26:42 PM
Really nice views both of you have!   :+1:
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: OutWithTheBlue on July 01, 2010, 10:40:03 AM
It's beautiful.
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: ronmac on July 02, 2010, 09:22:03 AM
Thanks!

I just showed the page to my wife, and her only comment was about how much her garden has improved since the shot was taken.  :roll

JCL really hit a home run with this edition of the L.
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: OutWithTheBlue on July 02, 2010, 09:27:02 AM
Quote from: ronmac on July 02, 2010, 09:22:03 AM
Thanks!

I just showed the page to my wife, and her only comment was about how much her garden has improved since the shot was taken.  :roll

JCL really hit a home run with this edition of the L.

hahahahahahahahaha of course...
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: 247hoopsfan on July 02, 2010, 10:23:22 AM
There is a garden in the picture?????? :humour:
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: Johnny M on July 02, 2010, 10:52:01 AM
Love that guitar  :nice guitar:

My friend that I jam with occasionally has one exactly the same, although almost 30 years older.  Lots of mojo and a few repaired top cracks just add to it's character.  One of the nicest sounding guitars I've ever heard.  I picked up a '92 L-05 a couple of months ago that has the same rosette, not fingerboard inlays and nice older style headstock.  I just love the look and vibe of older (or in this case, re-issued) Larrivee's.

Play it in good health!

John
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: jimmy buffett on July 02, 2010, 03:04:05 PM
Your L05 with the traditional mosaic rosette sounds nice.  GOTM material here???  Let's see some pictures...
jb
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 30, 2010, 07:25:56 PM
Quote from: Johnny M on July 02, 2010, 10:52:01 AM
Love that guitar  :nice guitar:

My friend that I jam with occasionally has one exactly the same, although almost 30 years older.  Lots of mojo and a few repaired top cracks just add to it's character.  One of the nicest sounding guitars I've ever heard.  I picked up a '92 L-05 a couple of months ago that has the same rosette, not fingerboard inlays and nice older style headstock.  I just love the look and vibe of older (or in this case, re-issued) Larrivee's.

Play it in good health!

John

Hi Folks, just joined.  I have a L0-7 model that looks almost identical except for the headstock logo and lack of binding strip down the back seam.  I just finished corresponding with Larrivee about it today!  Then I found this forum and now this thread.    I was blown away when I saw the GOTM pic on the home page.  There ws my guitar staring me in the face.  I sent Larrivee pictures and measurements this morning, and I got an invite to call Matt Larrivee for a discussion about it, which I did immediately!  He estimates it was made in late 83 or early 84 judging by the s/n.  He told me this particlar model was was used extensively in creating the JCL 40th anniversary reissue.  Mine has the same rosette and bindings.  He told me those particular bindings and purflings were made by a craftsman in Germany on my model and all of the models made in that era.  They are holly, rosewood, and pearwood.  The red and green flecks in the rosette are dyed holly.  They couldn't locate the original craftsman when they made the JCL, but they tried to.  He told me who actually made them on the JCL reissue but I have already forgotten (too exited to write it down).

I bought mine used in Jan. 1985.  It has a pickup (passive) inside somewhere and a jack in the strap botton.  I still have to determine if this is original.  Matt told me it was rare to install electronics back then , but they did do some on special order.  It is quite subject to feedback, but it sure sounds good plugged in otherwise.  I have to take pics of the inside and send them to Larrivee to find out for sure.  I think it might be a Barcus Berry hot dot.

I would be extremely interested to know if the dimensions of mine match, or are close to that GOTM.  The neck on mine is a soft V profile.  Matt Larrivee advised that at that time, his dad  was experimenting with neck profiles and mine is more or less based on an earlier Martin profile.  For brevity, I won't include my measurements here, but if anyone thinks it's worth it, I'll put them in another post and someone would have to measure a JCL to compare it.  I will post pics in my next post, but have to figure out how first.

By the way, the tone of this guitar is incredible and has aged beautifully.  If I had to describe it in a few words, I would say "balanced" and "mellow".  I use med. light strings on it and the action is average I would say.  I've haven't  adjusted anything on it since I bought it!  I don't even know if it has a truss rod.  (I don't see one).  Every note on every string balances with every other.  It has been my faithful sing-a-long companion for 25 years now.   When I play it, people listen!

Any comments on L-07 circa 1983-84 model would be greatly appreciated.

Pics to follow.


Kurt in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 30, 2010, 08:17:19 PM
Trying to post some pics of my L-07 per my last post in this thread.  Guess I can't - newbie status.  Talk to me people.  I need an excuse to post.  Guess I need at least 10 posts to "graduate" past newbie.

(//)

Kurt in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: Stephen Basil on July 30, 2010, 08:21:48 PM
Hi Kurt, I'd be most interested to see that L-07 of yours... the early 80's don't seem all that long ago. :beer
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 30, 2010, 08:27:32 PM
OK now I got an excuse to submit my L-07 measurements which I will paste here.  This is what I sent to Larrivee customer service this morning along with the pics of my L-07.

OK here are measurements I took.  Where I could, I used an electronic caliper.
Upper bout max width:                        11 3/4"
Lower bout max width:                        16 5/32"
Body length:                                       20 1/8"
Body depth @ strap button:                  4 5/16"
Body depth @ neck joint:                     4"
Waist:                                                10 3/8"
Neck width at nut:                                1 3/4"
Neck witdth at body joint (14th) fret:       2 3/16"
No. of frets:                                          20
Scale length:                                        Measured in metric it's exactly 325mm at 12th fret X 2 = 650mm.
String spacing at nut:                            1 13/32" or 35.8mm
String spacing at saddle:                       2 9/64" or 54.3mm
Neck thickness at nut:                          7/8" or 22.2mm  neck has a fairly deep rounded V profile.
Neck thickness at 9th fret:                    1 1/32" or 26.25mm
Sound hole diameter:                            3 9/32" or 99.2mm
Top thickness at soundhole edge:          7/64" or 2.75mm
Finger board thickness at outer edges:   7/32"
Finger board radius:                              20" from nut to soundhole.  Saddle curvature matches finger board curvature extremely well when sighting down neck.

Anything else you want me to measure:    LET ME KNOW.

Kurt


........... so now, only 7 posts to go and I can add my pics.  If I don't find an L-07 thread, I'll start one.

Kurt in Edmonton
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: unclrob on July 30, 2010, 11:25:52 PM
Kurt 7 post with doughnuts in them will do just fine. :gotdonuts:
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: BenF on July 31, 2010, 05:17:14 AM
Quote from: unclrob on July 30, 2010, 11:25:52 PM
Kurt 7 post with doughnuts in them will do just fine. :gotdonuts:
:+1: :donut

best make it a round 10 to be safe.

Welcome to the forum Kurt. If you upload the pics to photobucket or the like you can insert the img code into your post instead.
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: Michael T on July 31, 2010, 06:12:17 AM
Welcome Kurt, you find lots of helpful folks here, relax and enjoy yourself  :welcome:
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: ronmac on July 31, 2010, 06:30:31 AM
Hi Kurt,

Welcome to the Forum. That is my JCL (GOTM) staring back at you. It is a lovely instrument.

The older Larrivee instruments really do have a special something. They age beautifully, and I certainly can agree with you on the balance and tone being something folks take notice of. I am looking forward to seeing pictures of your instrument.

Thanks for posting the instrument measurements. I will compare it to the reissue and see if their have been many changes.

Take care, Ron.
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: ducktrapper on July 31, 2010, 07:57:11 AM
Hi Kurt. Looking forward to seeing the L-07. The old L's are fine guitars in my opinion. Here's my 1975 version.





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Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 31, 2010, 10:59:55 AM
Quote from: unclrob on July 30, 2010, 11:25:52 PM
Kurt 7 post with doughnuts in them will do just fine. :gotdonuts:

OK, if I understand you correctly, here is number one of 7.  If not, please excuse the unnecessry repeats.
I have no idea what doughnuts signify at this point.  Guess I better do more research in the beginners threads.
:donut

Kurt
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 31, 2010, 11:02:08 AM
Number 2 of 7.
:donut
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 31, 2010, 11:19:49 AM
number 3
:donut
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 31, 2010, 11:20:52 AM
anda 4............
:donut
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
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Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 31, 2010, 11:27:55 AM
Here's 5 for you Benf.  And some coffee to dunk em in.
:donut :donut2 :donut :donut2 :donut :coffee
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 31, 2010, 11:29:03 AM
anda 6.............
:donut2
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 31, 2010, 11:31:38 AM
This should be the last one.  I just read about the significance of sending donuts by newbies in the forum rules.
:donut :coffee

Hope I can now attach pics.

Kurt
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 31, 2010, 12:38:34 PM
Here's a couple of pics of my L-07.  A lot of reflections when I took them.  The beauty of the wood doesn't show as well as I would like.  There are very few flaws in finish of the actual guitar.  What look like flaws are reflections, mostly.  I have more pics that I will perhaps put on photo-bucket and link to.



Kurt

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Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 31, 2010, 12:42:03 PM
More pics.

Kurt

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Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: ronmac on July 31, 2010, 03:10:28 PM
Great! I love the old style script on the headstock.
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 31, 2010, 03:29:16 PM
Hey ronmac,
You just gave me an idea.  I might create an avatar for myself out of that picture, similiar to what you did for yours, if that's OK by you.

A few more pics.

Kurt

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Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: ronmac on July 31, 2010, 03:36:05 PM
Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on July 31, 2010, 03:29:16 PM
Hey ronmac,
You just gave me an idea.  I might create an avatar for myself out of that picture, similiar to what you did for yours, if that's OK by you.

Kurt

That old style script would make a very nice avatar.
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: Michael T on July 31, 2010, 03:58:59 PM
Kurt, some nice shots of a great looking guitar! A little tip, they need to be 800x600 for the GOTM pics or enlargeable without loss of quality, that one looks like it could be a real contender. Oh, outside picturesque shots seem to be favored too.  :nice guitar:
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on July 31, 2010, 05:02:15 PM
Thanks for the tip.

Actually the originals, taken with my Digital SLR, are quite high res.  I re-sized them way down to to fit in here.  Not sure about the actual "artistic" or technical quality of the shots, though.   Might try a few more and pay more attention to the lighting and reflections.  Maybe I'll try and submit for Sept. as I see Aug. nominee list is already full.

Kurt
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: BenF on July 31, 2010, 05:49:05 PM
 :drool: nice guitar. I love those old rosettes, and that headstock logo is fantastic. 
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: ducktrapper on August 01, 2010, 07:17:24 AM
Beautiful guitar with, sorry to say, my least favourite Larrivée headstock label. They didn't use that one very long, though. Makes it a bit of a rarer rare bird, I guess.

:nice guitar:
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on August 01, 2010, 11:37:58 PM
Quote from: ducktrapper on August 01, 2010, 07:17:24 AM
Beautiful guitar with, sorry to say, my least favourite Larrivée headstock label. They didn't use that one very long, though. Makes it a bit of a rarer rare bird, I guess.

:nice guitar:
Hi Ducktrapper.

That's because yours has no logo!  :bgrin: Truthfully, I wouldn't know one logo from the next in terms of where it fits in the history of these beautiful guitars.  Is it the actual script/style of it you don't like, or the materials/method used to make it?  I wouldn't even know what the logo inlay on mine is actually made of.  And I never thought to ask Matt Larrivee when I talked to him.  (Of course I thought of all kinds of questions I should have asked AFTER I hung up).  All I know is it's kind of silvery pearly with a thin black outline.  It may even by a decal, but I don't think they would have done that on this one.

Your 1975 model looks a lot like mine.  Obvious differences are no logo on yours and no centre strip on back of mine.  I'm not even sure if mine is Brazilian Rosewood or not.  I wonder how close they compare in dimensions?  And in sound!
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: ducktrapper on August 02, 2010, 07:53:18 AM
Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on August 01, 2010, 11:37:58 PM
Hi Ducktrapper.

That's because yours has no logo!  :bgrin: Truthfully, I wouldn't know one logo from the next in terms of where it fits in the history of these beautiful guitars.  Is it the actual script/style of it you don't like, or the materials/method used to make it?  I wouldn't even know what the logo inlay on mine is actually made of.  And I never thought to ask Matt Larrivee when I talked to him.  (Of course I thought of all kinds of questions I should have asked AFTER I hung up).  All I know is it's kind of silvery pearly with a thin black outline.  It may even by a decal, but I don't think they would have done that on this one.

Your 1975 model looks a lot like mine.  Obvious differences are no logo on yours and no centre strip on back of mine.  I'm not even sure if mine is Brazilian Rosewood or not.  I wonder how close they compare in dimensions?  And in sound!

I'm sure it's inlay and not a decal. It's just the script that doesn't exactly appeal to me, however, when I said least favourite, it certainly didn't mean I don't like it. It's a beautiful guitar. Along the same lines, a friend of mine plays my OM-01 and calls it the worst Larrivée he's ever played. It would be fun to compare them side by side, alrighty.    
Title: Re: Nice JCL GOTM
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on August 03, 2010, 12:04:23 AM
Quote from: ducktrapper on August 02, 2010, 07:53:18 AM
..................It would be fun to compare them side by side, alrighty.    

I am not so up to date on the latest technology, but I learn fast, so I'm sure I could try and record my guitar and make a decent sound file out of it and then post it in here or send it to you.  Won't be real quick though, given camping plans and then figuring out how to do it the best way.  But stay tuned.

PS  In the "old days" (early eighties), I actually made some recordings of myself with four over-dubbed tracks using two cassette recorders and a radio shack mixer.  They actually sound pretty good all things considered.  However, that was before I had my Larrivee.  I had a 1971 Norman at the time.

Kurt