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Title: LR BAGGS Element observations
Post by: headsup on June 25, 2014, 07:43:04 AM
not sure if this stuff will matter to others, but I thought it important.

there are 2 Element models.

One with just the volume, the other with volume and tone (VTC)

I have both. The one with just the volume is the better of the two, with a bit more gain and a warmer fully sound out of the gate.
When I raised this point with the tech at Baggs, he told me that the VTC model had a built in pseudo compression chip in the circuit board, as well as something that rolls off the low end a tad.

something to do with the designing and adding a tone pot or something?

anyways, if contemplating a Baggs (certainly my preference for many years) it's something to consider.
Title: Re: LR BAGGS Element observations
Post by: rockstar_not on July 17, 2014, 10:26:38 PM
Quote from: headsup on June 25, 2014, 07:43:04 AM

something to do with the designing and adding a tone pot or something?


This is likely the thing.  The 'pot' is a resistor and it likely is the culprit in reducing the volume, besides the 'auto-compression' circuit.

-Scott
Title: Re: LR BAGGS Element observations
Post by: lmacmil on August 15, 2014, 09:41:41 PM
Quote from: headsup on June 25, 2014, 07:43:04 AM
there are 2 Element models.  One with just the volume, the other with volume and tone (VTC)

I have both. The one with just the volume is the better of the two, with a bit more gain and a warmer fully sound out of the gate.

Interesting.  I have a volume only Element  and like it a lot.  Just bought another one for a different guitar.  I had another brand active pickup with a tone control also and tech support said it only could only cut the highs.  Unless one had a very bright guitar, not very useful in my opinion.  I left it full on all the time.
Title: Re: LR BAGGS Element observations
Post by: ktron on August 20, 2014, 09:33:45 PM
Quote from: headsup on June 25, 2014, 07:43:04 AM
not sure if this stuff will matter to others, but I thought it important.      there are 2 Element models.     One with just the volume, the other with volume and tone (VTC)

I have both. The one with just the volume is the better of the two, with a bit more gain and a warmer fully sound out of the gate.
When I raised this point with the tech at Baggs, he told me that the VTC model had a built in pseudo compression chip in the circuit board, as well as something that rolls off the low end a tad.

anyways, if contemplating a Baggs (certainly my preference for many years) it's something to consider.

It is sad, n'est pas, that  company can't aim for any level of consistency in their products?
Title: Re: LR BAGGS Element observations
Post by: headsup on September 04, 2014, 10:27:37 AM
on the contrary, I use these elements exclusively on my LIVE gigging guitars.
It was merely an observation I noticed, which I now understand.

I was merely trying to let any one else know about the discrepancy, and how the response was, from a stage, gigging, back and forth perspective.

all good, it's a fine product, and very simple with minimal hardware inside the guitar, and always provides great results, providing you don't lean on them (like all UST's)