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Title: Vinyl
Post by: ducktrapper on July 21, 2023, 04:18:40 PM
Anyone else enjoying their vinyl collection? I have an estimated 1500 albums remaining from my peak with around 3500. When you eliminate that many, you find yourself wondering where the heck did that one go?  :laughin:
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: unclrob on July 21, 2023, 10:02:59 PM
I have a friend who  comes by now and again to pick thru mine.

keep smilin and keep dancin  :nanadance
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: ducktrapper on July 21, 2023, 10:06:45 PM
Quote from: unclrob on July 21, 2023, 10:02:59 PMI have a friend who  comes by now and again to pick thru mine.

keep smilin and keep dancin  :nanadance

Well, you can pick your friends and you can pick your nose and while you can't pick your friend's nose, you can pick through his records.  :cheers
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: eded on July 22, 2023, 10:52:19 AM
All the vinyl went several years ago.  Now, most of the cd's we have are in boxes somewhere because we have them digitized and available on phones, iPads, computers, etc.  The two things I truly miss are listening to a well sequenced album all the way thru and those big *censored* speakers I used to have.  Soundbars and bluetooth speakers are ok, but those 12" woofers, 5" mids, and tweeters were so much better.  Of course my hearing was better then too. Oh, a third thing...  the album covers.

Ed
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: ducktrapper on July 22, 2023, 11:07:34 AM
Quote from: eded on July 22, 2023, 10:52:19 AMAll the vinyl went several years ago.  Now, most of the cd's we have are in boxes somewhere because we have them digitized and available on phones, iPads, computers, etc.  The two things I truly miss are listening to a well sequenced album all the way thru and those big *censored* speakers I used to have.  Soundbars and bluetooth speakers are ok, but those 12" woofers, 5" kids, and tweeters were so much better.  Of course my hearing was better then too. Oh, a third thing...  the album covers.

Ed

I'm a dinosaur.  :laughin:

I'm surrounded by books, albums, CDs, stereo components, amps and speakers ... and guitars. I don't do much streaming except using my phone and a bluetooth speaker to listen to Pandora on the patio or veranda. The one thing I miss is a CD player in the car. I can see no ashtray but no CD player? That's just wrong. Pandora and Sirius are no improvement on my own selections.  :cheers   
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: eded on July 22, 2023, 12:27:09 PM
Quote from: ducktrapper on July 22, 2023, 11:07:34 AMI'm a dinosaur.  :laughin:

I'm surrounded by books, albums, CDs, stereo components, amps and speakers ... and guitars. I don't do much streaming except using my phone and a bluetooth speaker to listen to Pandora on the patio or veranda. The one thing I miss is a CD player in the car. I can see no ashtray but no CD player? That's just wrong. Pandora and Sirius are no improvement on my own selections.  :cheers   

My truck is old...  2008.  It's really the only place I have left to listen to cd's that haven't been ripped (usually friends releases).  I finally sold off my old (still working perfectly) Phase Linear setup.  I was kind of sad to see it go.

Books?  Yeah, plenty of them around.  lol  One wall of the living room, and bookcases in just about every room.
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: ducktrapper on July 22, 2023, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: eded on July 22, 2023, 12:27:09 PMMy truck is old...  2008.  It's really the only place I have left to listen to cd's that haven't been ripped (usually friends releases).  I finally sold off my old (still working perfectly) Phase Linear setup.  I was kind of sad to see it go.

Books?  Yeah, plenty of them around.  lol  One wall of the living room, and bookcases in just about every room.

My wife talked me into getting this Honda Passport. She's five foot nothing and likes the size of it. It's way too fancy for my liking. Too many bells and whistles and not the kind I'd want. It senses things around it and not always in good ways. Telling you to brake, flashing and shuddering, when you come around a curve and it senses the vehicle in the next lane as being in front of you. You have to remember to disable the stop/shutoff feature as it defaults to on when you start up. For as much gas as that might save, it has to more than make up for it in battery life reduction. It also automatically slows down in cruise if the vehicle in front is going slower. PITA. It's made for drivers that are asleep at the switch, I guess. My wife loves it but I do 90% of the driving. Oh well.
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: eded on July 22, 2023, 02:23:16 PM
Quote from: ducktrapper on July 22, 2023, 12:56:24 PMMy wife loves it but I do 90% of the driving. Oh well.

The things we do...   happily.   :roll
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: ducktrapper on July 22, 2023, 02:24:46 PM
Quote from: eded on July 22, 2023, 02:23:16 PMThe things we do...   happily.   :roll

Happy wife, happy life!  :laughin:
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: Queequeg on July 22, 2023, 08:52:35 PM
I donated my records and CD collection to the public library several years ago when I made the transition to streaming.
It's OK; good enough for me at my age, but as Eded noted above, I really miss the album covers- the artwork and the liner notes and especially the credits.
It's the trade off for having an entire library of music at my fingertips and on a moment's notice.
Seems I'm forever engaged in some kind of trade off or another.
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: ducktrapper on July 22, 2023, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on July 22, 2023, 08:52:35 PMI donated my records and CD collection to the public library several years ago when I made the transition to streaming.
It's OK; good enough for me at my age, but as Eded noted above, I really miss the album covers- the artwork and the liner notes and especially the credits.
It's the trade off for having an entire library of music at my fingertips and on a moment's notice.
Seems I'm forever engaged in some kind of trade off or another.

That's life. They can tear my albums from my cold dead hands. I've never been what you'd call an audiophile, however. I'd rather have lots of great albums to play and a decent player to play them on than spend all the money on systems. I remember loving songs played on a radio the size of an electric shaver. As far as the format goes, I'm not sure if I can tell records from CDs, quality wise, but there is something tactile about vinyl and the album covers that they come in, that just feels better. 

Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: Silence Dogood on July 23, 2023, 06:39:36 AM
I've got a good friend in the neighborhood in his early 60s (I'm in my 40s).  He still sits around "listening to records."  When I go over there sometimes, he'll put one on at max volume and try to talk over it. 
 :roll
It always kind of cracks me up. 

He still has all the records from when he was a kid. 

I think records are cool as tangible things, and they do sound different, but the convenience of having the world's music in one's pocket at any given is, IMO, a genuine improvement in the course of human affairs. 
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: ducktrapper on July 23, 2023, 09:54:52 AM
Quote from: Silence Dogood on July 23, 2023, 06:39:36 AMI've got a good friend in the neighborhood in his early 60s (I'm in my 40s).  He still sits around "listening to records."  When I go over there sometimes, he'll put one on at max volume and try to talk over it. 
 :roll
It always kind of cracks me up. 

He still has all the records from when he was a kid. 

I think records are cool as tangible things, and they do sound different, but the convenience of having the world's music in one's pocket at any given is, IMO, a genuine improvement in the course of human affairs. 

I guess but I only want the music I like and I can only listen to so much so all the music in the world is a bit of overkill. I do stream a bit. I'll use Pandora and a bluetooth out on the patio. Did last night and it worked fine. Besides, MP3's just don't sound as good as either vinyl or discs. Not to me anyway. It's especially evident on music that was produced before everything became digital. Again to me.  :beer 
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: fongie on March 01, 2024, 06:44:31 PM
.....I sure do. I still have over 200 vinyls, some highly collectable and in mint condition. ACDC, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Creedence, Dire Strait, etc, etc. I have 2 Sansui Hi Fi system with a Akai Reel to Reel.
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: ducktrapper on March 02, 2024, 06:09:34 PM
Quote from: fongie on March 01, 2024, 06:44:31 PM.....I sure do. I still have over 200 vinyls, some highly collectable and in mint condition. ACDC, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Creedence, Dire Strait, etc, etc. I have 2 Sansui Hi Fi system with a Akai Reel to Reel.

I miss my big Sansui stereo amp. Funny thing, I can't remember what happened to it.  :laughin:

I decided today, that I'm going through my CD collection and take a bunch to the used Book/Record/CD store and trade them in for some new stuff. Well, probably new old stuff. If I haven't listened to it for a year and probably never will, that is.
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: Riverbend on March 03, 2024, 05:00:47 AM
I've been rediscovering my vinyl collection these past few years. It started by searching for, and finally finding, a decent turntable and components. And one that wasn't priced crazy high as "vintage collectable". Maybe sometime before my time is up I'll remember where my old system went. It's probably hanging out with your old amp Duck. Funny how things just disappear like that, uh huh.
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: ducktrapper on March 03, 2024, 04:42:34 PM
Quote from: Riverbend on March 03, 2024, 05:00:47 AMI've been rediscovering my vinyl collection these past few years. It started by searching for, and finally finding, a decent turntable and components. And one that wasn't priced crazy high as "vintage collectable". Maybe sometime before my time is up I'll remember where my old system went. It's probably hanging out with your old amp Duck. Funny how things just disappear like that, uh huh.

Sure is. I keep looking for albums that I know I should have but don't.  :?   
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: Silence Dogood on March 09, 2024, 08:09:56 AM
When I was a kid in the early 80s there were lots of records around our house.  To me, they were a PITA because it seemed like the player was always breaking down, needed a new needle, or one of the records was scratched, ruining the entire listening experience.  When cassettes came along, it struck me as a huge leap forward in the right direction.  When CDs came along, even better! 

I don't consider myself an audiophile or expert, but I've LOVED music my entire life (like everyone else here).  I don't really get the big deal with records.  I know it sounds *different*, but does it sound better?  To each his own.  For my part, music via a good set of earbuds played on my iPhone sounds GREAT to me.  YMMV.
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: B0WIE on March 09, 2024, 12:09:10 PM
I do think vinyl can sound better, particularly for material that was mixed for vinyl. There's a softening in the areas we hear as "harsh", the high frequencies come out in a gentle way, and a lot of low level information is revealed. It's a really music-friendly medium.

Tape always bothered my because it was mushy sounding. Super compressed and lacking in crispness. Early CDs the opposite, the medium was no longer softening the sound so they were very aggressive and thin sounding. Remasters started addressing this and now digital music is handled differently. The sound is actively softened though equipment and software. The most commonly used studio vocal mics today are based in 1950s and 60's technology. Our ears tend to prefer that softening, which is why people still like vinyl.
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: Silence Dogood on March 09, 2024, 12:19:37 PM
Quote from: B0WIE on March 09, 2024, 12:09:10 PMI do think vinyl can sound better, particularly for material that was mixed for vinyl. There's a softening in the areas we hear as "harsh", the high frequencies come out in a gentle way, and a lot of low level information is revealed. It's a really music-friendly medium.

Tape always bothered my because it was mushy sounding. Super compressed and lacking in crispness. Early CDs the opposite, the medium was no longer softening the sound so they were very aggressive and thin sounding. Remasters started addressing this and now digital music is handled differently. The sound is actively softened though equipment and software. The most commonly used studio vocal mics today are based in 1950s and 60's technology. Our ears tend to prefer that softening, which is why people still like vinyl.
Man, that's wild. I don't hear any of that stuff and couldn't pick it out in a million years.  I just like the music.  I think when it comes to listening to music, I'm like ducktrapper when it comes to guitar strings.  Six new ones!  Just give me some music in some form and I'm good. 
 :laughin:
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: ducktrapper on March 09, 2024, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: Silence Dogood on March 09, 2024, 12:19:37 PMMan, that's wild. I don't hear any of that stuff and couldn't pick it out in a million years.  I just like the music.  I think when it comes to listening to music, I'm like ducktrapper when it comes to guitar strings.  Six new ones!  Just give me some music in some form and I'm good. 
 :laughin:

I enjoy music in any format. I remember listening to The Beatles on a transistor radio the size of a shaver. Sounded great.  :cheers
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: Riverbend on March 10, 2024, 04:46:09 AM
I have noticed that, to my ears at least, some "remastered" CD's sound really compressed. Hard to explain but there's a sort of bottled uniformity where at times it sounds and feels like they squeezed the feeling out of the music.
Title: Re: Vinyl
Post by: William2 on March 10, 2024, 06:20:32 AM
I like the sound of vinyl and digital also. But I'm not going to go through the expense of rebuilding an audio system and I only still have a couple of unopened records. I know nothing about recording techniques, but one thing I have noticed is some CDs have an audio range to them where the pianissimo can become hard to hear. I do much of my listening in the car when I'm driving, and I usually listen to classical piano music. If I take one artist I like, on some of her CDs I can hear the complete piece of music, but on another, the quiet parts make me want to reach over and turn up the volume. I do like CDs for durability and convenience, and I do have a library of them. One other thing, I was in a friend's newer car recently and became aware that auto manufacturers don't put CD players in the new cars. Guess I'll have to keep my car LOL!!!