Main Forums => Technical Discussion => Topic started by: rrgguitarman on February 15, 2015, 03:53:34 PM

Title: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on February 15, 2015, 03:53:34 PM
Hi everyone. Its been awhile since I've posted.

I just purchased a lovely Larrivee OM-03 Maple Leaf Peruvian Walnut and I am thinking about changing the tuners.
I think I've read that the Gotoh 510 midsize are drop in  for the Larrivees?

Anyone here used these?
Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: eded on February 15, 2015, 04:04:02 PM
I'm thinking about a set for my PV-03.  I know it's been asked (and answered) a hundred times already, but if anyone knows it would be appreciated.

Ed
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: carruth on February 15, 2015, 06:24:17 PM
 :bgrin: Go to Technical Discuussion, then Technical FAQ on this site. I prefer the Gotoh Schaller type myself, rather than the 510s'.They also drop straight in.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: Walkerman on February 15, 2015, 06:43:46 PM
Quote from: eded on February 15, 2015, 04:04:02 PM
I'm thinking about a set for my PV-03.  I know it's been asked (and answered) a hundred times already, but if anyone knows it would be appreciated.

Ed
I believe that the parlour takes the mini size.  You need to be aware of the angle of the screw.  It comes straight out (Schaller mini) or at an angle (Gotoh mini).  Which type do you have?
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on February 15, 2015, 07:07:35 PM
Quote from: carruth on February 15, 2015, 06:24:17 PM
:bgrin: Go to Technical Discuussion, then Technical FAQ on this site. I prefer the Gotoh Schaller type myself, rather than the 510s'.They also drop straight in.

Thank you.

Are these the ones that you favor? I'm looking at getting black.

http://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Parts/Tuning_Machines/Guitar_and_Solid_Peghead/Gotoh_Tuners/Gotoh_Large_Schaller-style_Knob_3and3_Tuning_Machines.html
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: dave42 on February 16, 2015, 05:45:11 AM
This may  help.. (http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=46745.msg411991#msg411991)
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on February 16, 2015, 09:13:22 AM
That helps a bunch. Thank you.


Do you know if stewmac is the best place to purchase?

Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: Tio Kimo on February 16, 2015, 11:02:55 AM
Yes. Direct drop in, and a fantastic tuning machine.

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/tiokimo/Larrivee%20LV-03/photo17_zps81727972.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/tiokimo/media/Larrivee%20LV-03/photo17_zps81727972.jpg.html)

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/tiokimo/Larrivee%20LV-03/photo36_zpsc26aa021.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/tiokimo/media/Larrivee%20LV-03/photo36_zpsc26aa021.jpg.html)

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/tiokimo/Larrivee%20LV-03/photo46_zps85f365b1.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/tiokimo/media/Larrivee%20LV-03/photo46_zps85f365b1.jpg.html)

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l58/tiokimo/Larrivee%20LV-03/photo37_zps09c15e49.jpg) (http://s93.photobucket.com/user/tiokimo/media/Larrivee%20LV-03/photo37_zps09c15e49.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: Tio Kimo on February 16, 2015, 11:06:16 AM
Quote from: dave42 on February 16, 2015, 05:45:11 AM
This may  help.. (http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=46745.msg411991#msg411991)

dohh!!! Nice Post Dave, sorry I'd missed that.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: Parlor Picker on February 17, 2015, 09:34:59 AM
I must be especially lucky, because the Larrivée tuners on my Parlor work perfectly. I assume they are the much maligned Pings, but I've found they do not cause any problems.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: eded on February 17, 2015, 10:18:00 AM
Quote from: Parlor Picker on February 17, 2015, 09:34:59 AM
I must be especially lucky, because the Larrivée tuners on my Parlor work perfectly. I assume they are the much maligned Pings, but I've found they do not cause any problems.

The pings on my 99 parlor are still in fine shape.  They've always worked like they should.  The ones on my newer PV-03 are fine, too really.  I just wonder if a set of 21:1 510's would be a nice upgrade.  The ones on my PV have the Schaller type screw placement.  There's no rush, I'll think about what I want to do.

Ed
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: Tuba Mike on February 17, 2015, 11:27:02 AM
Those go so nice with the ebony headstock, Tio.   :nice guitar:

That is if that is an ebony headstock.  looks black in the picture.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on February 17, 2015, 11:41:12 AM
I'm thinking about putting the Gotoh Black midsize. What do you think? or the Gold?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/rrgguitarman/IMG_0236_zps76a0cc31.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rrgguitarman/media/IMG_0236_zps76a0cc31.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: Tuba Mike on February 17, 2015, 11:48:34 AM
Any way of doing copper or antiqued bronze?  The colors of the leafs beckon to more of a bronze tone rather than black or gold, IMHO.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on February 17, 2015, 11:56:19 AM
Quote from: Tuba Mike on February 17, 2015, 11:48:34 AM
Any way of doing copper or antiqued bronze?  The colors of the leafs beckon to more of a bronze tone rather than black or gold, IMHO.

Yes, for sure, I went with black because of the headstock and gold because its the only finish that I can find to match the leaf.

Are there other flavors available that I've missed?
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: dave42 on February 17, 2015, 03:49:32 PM
Beautiful headstock and fretboard! Go with the black as to not draw any attention away from the inlay.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on February 17, 2015, 04:33:25 PM
Quote from: dave42 on February 17, 2015, 03:49:32 PM
Beautiful headstock and fretboard! Go with the black as to not draw any attention away from the inlay.

I think that is true. Thanks.

I did this combo on my L-03WL

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/rrgguitarman/DSC06538.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rrgguitarman/media/DSC06538.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: carruth on February 17, 2015, 06:34:01 PM
RRGGuitarman..... :thumb   Those Gotoh Schallers are the correct ones . Black has to be the go with the Maple,but the Gold ones would look great too.  :gotpics: Please show us when you have them installed.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: canada on February 18, 2015, 10:59:08 AM
(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz91/Rollingdam/me/for%20sale/IMG_2969.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/Rollingdam/media/me/for%20sale/IMG_2969.jpg.html)

(http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz91/Rollingdam/me/for%20sale/IMG_2970.jpg) (http://s817.photobucket.com/user/Rollingdam/media/me/for%20sale/IMG_2970.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on February 18, 2015, 11:25:42 AM
Very nice!

I do like the look of the Gotoh Midsize, but I also like Schaller style. I'm kind of leaning toward the Gotoh Midsize because of the durable finish, at least that what I've gathered from the Gotoh website. Thanks.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: Tio Kimo on February 18, 2015, 04:49:08 PM
Quote from: dave42 on February 17, 2015, 03:49:32 PM
Beautiful headstock and fretboard! Go with the black as to not draw any attention away from the inlay.


This! 

(And YA, mines ebony)
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: dave42 on February 19, 2015, 08:06:19 AM
My 2012 L-03 with wood inlayed logo with black 510 tuners.

(This guitar was built in Canada... wonder if they'd put a smaller version of the maple leaves on this headstock? I really like that maple leaf inlay!  :smile: )

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/dave42/2012%20Larrivee%20L-03RW%20Custom/L03R15_zpsb6d17722.jpg)
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on February 19, 2015, 10:41:26 AM
The black looks very nice on that headstock.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on February 19, 2015, 09:24:12 PM
Is Stewart-MacDonald  the best place to buy? are there other places? their shipping is a bit high.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: ZachStevenson on February 20, 2015, 10:58:42 AM
Try here: http://www.japarts.ca/Gotoh/Gotoh-Products-SG510.asp

If you're in Canada they may be cheaper than Stew-Mac depending on how far they're shipping.

I bought mine there and they were very friendly to deal with and good about giving updates, and following up on emails.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on February 20, 2015, 11:13:38 AM
I found that website, but the shipping from Japan and 2-3 weeks to deliver kind of discouraged me.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: webberink on February 20, 2015, 06:27:46 PM
I have ordered all my Gotoh products direct ( http://www.g-gotoh.com/international/ )  I have always dealt with Scott Ando, sales manager at Domo International.  Email him direct at domointl@gmail.com.
Great service,
Dave
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on February 21, 2015, 12:34:53 PM
Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: dave42 on February 22, 2015, 07:25:51 AM
webberink,  Thanks for that link. I've always and went through Stewmac.

I like that 'X-Nickel' color!

rrguitarman... The color on my Larrivee pictured is Cosmo Black, not Black Chrome.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: Koamon on February 24, 2015, 01:13:33 PM
Here is mine with the gold and black buttons.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: ZachStevenson on February 24, 2015, 02:22:58 PM
Sharp!
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on February 24, 2015, 03:58:46 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: Walkerman on February 27, 2015, 08:47:28 AM
Snake wood headstock with snakewood buttons and snakewood fretboard binding

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/travette/DSC_0006-8-1.jpg)

Rosewood headstock with snakewood buttons


(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/travette/DSC_1016.jpg)


(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/travette/DSC_1020.jpg)
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: ZachStevenson on February 27, 2015, 10:31:26 AM
Beautiful!  :nice guitar:
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on March 01, 2015, 05:16:32 PM
That is beautiful.

Got the Cosmos installed.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/rrgguitarman/larrivee%20gotohjpg_zps29sjs16x.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rrgguitarman/media/larrivee%20gotohjpg_zps29sjs16x.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on March 01, 2015, 05:48:01 PM
This tuners are great.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/rrgguitarman/larrivee%20gotoh%202_zpsmowlgqm5.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rrgguitarman/media/larrivee%20gotoh%202_zpsmowlgqm5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: webberink on March 01, 2015, 06:45:37 PM
Good job, where did you get them?
Dave
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on March 01, 2015, 06:48:35 PM
Where you suggested. A very pleasant transaction. Thank you for that info.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on March 01, 2015, 08:28:48 PM
Quote from: rrgguitarman on March 01, 2015, 06:48:35 PM
Where you suggested. A very pleasant transaction. Thank you for that info.
:thumb
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: dave42 on March 06, 2015, 06:12:22 AM
Wow! That inlay really stands out! Yes, those tuners are great working tuners. Smooth.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: dave42 on March 06, 2015, 06:17:41 AM
Is there a full guitar pic available? I'd like to see the inlay. Thanks.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on March 06, 2015, 10:38:36 AM
Before changing the tuners.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/rrgguitarman/IMG_0235_zpsuxgnpd38.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rrgguitarman/media/IMG_0235_zpsuxgnpd38.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/rrgguitarman/IMG_0231_zps4qnsdvfx.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rrgguitarman/media/IMG_0231_zps4qnsdvfx.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: Tio Kimo on March 06, 2015, 01:32:22 PM
Quote from: rrgguitarman on March 01, 2015, 05:16:32 PM

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/rrgguitarman/larrivee%20gotohjpg_zps29sjs16x.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rrgguitarman/media/larrivee%20gotohjpg_zps29sjs16x.jpg.html)

Turned out wonderfully! The black cosmo finish is widely adaptable I feel.

The longer I own the 510 mini's the more I like them.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: dave42 on March 06, 2015, 01:51:51 PM
Thanks for the pics. Very nice inlay.  :thumb
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on March 06, 2015, 03:06:05 PM
You're welcome, thank you for your interest.
Besides the beauty this OM is the liveliest guitar I have ever played, a very sweet voice. I was also surprised how easily it plays with the mediums that it came with.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: tpoint on March 26, 2015, 09:31:51 AM
I dropped these antique gold/ebony button 510's in my new OM-03 JCL in about 5 minutes!
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: dave42 on April 02, 2015, 07:22:01 PM
Great look!
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: rrgguitarman on April 02, 2015, 07:28:16 PM
Quote from: tpoint on March 26, 2015, 09:31:51 AM
I dropped these antique gold/ebony button 510's in my new OM-03 JCL in about 5 minutes!

How did you manage to do that in 5 minutes? that is fast.

Looks great BTW.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: tpoint on April 06, 2015, 02:04:27 PM
Quote from: rrgguitarman on April 02, 2015, 07:28:16 PM
How did you manage to do that in 5 minutes? that is fast.

Looks great BTW.

could've taken 10, rr! Maybe 15, but then it took me 30 minutes to restring it.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: George on May 21, 2015, 11:00:53 AM
I have a question with regard to Gotoh 510 tuner installation when replacing standard Ping tuners on a Larrivee Guitar.  Has anyone had to fill and re-drill the screw holes to get the Gotoh 510 tuners to fit?  I am having a discussion with the dealer about the new Luxury Mode tuners and he seems to think there is a difference in the screw hole angle.  I have not experienced this problem.  Have any of you?
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: eded on May 21, 2015, 02:08:13 PM
Quote from: georbro3 on May 21, 2015, 11:00:53 AM
I have a question with regard to Gotoh 510 tuner installation when replacing standard Ping tuners on a Larrivee Guitar.  Has anyone had to fill and re-drill the screw holes to get the Gotoh 510 tuners to fit?  I am having a discussion with the dealer about the new Luxury Mode tuners and he seems to think there is a difference in the screw hole angle.  I have not experienced this problem.  Have any of you?

In the past, I have filled the hole with a (wood) toothpick, stained to (closely) match the existing wood, and drilled a new hole.  I haven't bothered with any finish.  And haven't had any problem with it.  I'm not sure if I've done this with a Larrivee.

Ed
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: eded on May 21, 2015, 02:13:05 PM
And...  yet another question (that I've probably asked before).

If anyone has put a set of 21:1 510's on their parlor, do you remember which ones fit?  My preference would be a set of mini's (for reduced weight), but they only come in 18:1.  If the regular size fits, I could at least get smaller buttons to slightly reduce the weight.

Ed
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: George on May 21, 2015, 03:37:53 PM
Hey Ed.  Contact Josh Gemmell with Japarts.ca, he has experience with Larrivee parlors and Gotoh 510 minis and he is a dealer.  He tells me that the mid size will likely fit.  Very knowledgeable...  Josh Gemmell <info@japarts.ca>
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: dave42 on May 22, 2015, 06:42:18 AM
eded, I'll post this link a again about drop in tuners.

Drop in, no drill, no hole fill tuners. (http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=46745.msg411991#msg411991)

Hope this helps! :smile:
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: eded on May 22, 2015, 06:56:37 AM
Quote from: dave42 on May 22, 2015, 06:42:18 AM
eded, I'll post this link a again about drop in tuners.

Drop in, no drill, no hole fill tuners. (http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=46745.msg411991#msg411991)

Hope this helps! :smile:

Thanks.  That helps a lot.

Ed
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: George on June 21, 2015, 04:35:06 PM
Every Larrivee guitar I have upgraded to Gotoh 510SGLZ 1:21 ratio tuning machines have been a no fill, no drill, drop in replacement.  A few pics follow for illustration...

new nickel finish first.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: George on June 21, 2015, 04:36:56 PM
Antique gold.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: George on June 21, 2015, 04:38:32 PM
Chrome Luxury Mode.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: George on June 21, 2015, 04:40:29 PM
XG locking.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: George on June 21, 2015, 04:42:22 PM
Gold Luxury Mode.
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: broKen on June 21, 2015, 05:03:16 PM
Think I like the first best,,,the nickle. My .05   :beer
Title: Re: Gotoh 510
Post by: George on June 21, 2015, 05:51:16 PM
Me too.  They just started making them in nickel and I bought two sets.  The next one goes on my J-03.  Japarts has them on sale for $71 on ebay right now...