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Title: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Walkerman on January 13, 2015, 08:35:07 AM
Which one?  How did it turn out.  I see they offer a "no drill" model.  Does it still fit in original case?
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: headsup on January 13, 2015, 09:19:42 AM
according to Matt, this is one of two made.
Highly recommended, be sure to get the Schaller roller bridge with the rollers that can be adjusted side to side over the pup screws for best results.
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Walkerman on January 13, 2015, 12:29:30 PM
Looks like there could be some whacking of the knobs and the handle.
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Mikeymac on January 13, 2015, 01:21:00 PM
I don't know about the RS-4 model, but with the B-5 Bigsby on my RS-2, it will still fit in the case and close perfectly (with the Bigsby arm flipped around back to the tail end of the body).  The arm doesn't hit the knobs, but it is in the way when it comes to adjusting them.

(Click on image below to enlarge.)

Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Walkerman on January 13, 2015, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: Mikeymac on January 13, 2015, 01:21:00 PM
I don't know about the RS-4 model, but with the B-5 Bigsby on my RS-2, it will still fit in the case and close perfectly (with the Bigsby arm flipped around back to the tail end of the body).  The arm doesn't hit the knobs, but it is in the way when it comes to adjusting them.

(Click on image below to enlarge.)



Looks real nice....but I swear it is upside down   :humor:

you did a real good job.  Was it hard?  I hear they have a model that doesn't require drilling.
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: unclrob on January 13, 2015, 02:25:08 PM
you can check vibromate for the drilling free stuff very easy to install.
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Walkerman on January 13, 2015, 02:40:18 PM
Quote from: unclrob on January 13, 2015, 02:25:08 PM
you can check vibromate for the drilling free stuff very easy to install.

Do you keep the stock bridge?
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Mikeymac on January 13, 2015, 10:19:48 PM
Quote from: Walkerman on January 13, 2015, 02:40:18 PM

Do you keep the stock bridge?


I have the stock bridge/saddles on mine; many people put on a bridge with roller saddles, and that would definitely improve tuning stability on mine! Some swear that you can keep a Bigsby in tune with a stock bridge on it...but that's not been my experience.

Mine has the Vibramate on it that unclrob is talking about: it screws into the stock stoptail piece holes without making any mods to the guitar, then the Bigsby screws into the Vibramate with four included screws. I've had it switched back once - very painless.
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Walkerman on January 14, 2015, 01:38:04 PM
Quote from: unclrob on January 13, 2015, 02:25:08 PM
you can check vibromate for the drilling free stuff very easy to install.

What do you think about the need to change out the bridge?  Mikeymac says roller saddle would help with tuning.
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: unclrob on January 14, 2015, 03:17:01 PM
I came to Bigsby's via Gretsch guitars and they had rollor bridge's,I've installed a few of the newer one's on guitars andthere nice.The tuning issue come's from not knowing that when using the vibrato never just let the arm swing back on its own its all about guiding the arm.Plus make sure the nut slots aren't to tight and the slots are clean.I have a Bigsby on my partscaster and use it all the time with no problem but then again I've been playing with a Bigsby since '69.
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: headsup on January 14, 2015, 03:23:15 PM
Quote from: Walkerman on January 13, 2015, 08:35:07 AM
Which one?  How did it turn out.  I see they offer a "no drill" model.  Does it still fit in original case?



I believe Joycein NS posted a link recently of the new Bigsby for Les Paul....
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on January 14, 2015, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: headsup on January 14, 2015, 03:23:15 PM


I believe Joycein NS posted a link recently of the new Bigsby for Les Paul....
I think Kevin you might have been thinking of the Floyd Rose thread I started HERE (http://www.larriveeforum.com/smf/index.php?topic=47480.msg417753#msg417753)
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: JOYCEfromNS on January 14, 2015, 03:58:09 PM
Quote from: Walkerman on January 13, 2015, 08:35:07 AM
Which one?  How did it turn out.  I see they offer a "no drill" model.  Does it still fit in original case?
I think Mike (Cybercanyon)  could shed some light here as he had a Bigsby installed at Build of his Forum V
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: unclrob on January 14, 2015, 09:42:52 PM
You can get all the modals the B7 and the B70 are the long tailpiece one's which have the side attachment like the one on your goldtop,the B5 and the B50 are top mounts with string pull down bare in front.The B3 and the B30 don't have the front bar.I have install all 3 with the vibromate system,kinda cool way of doing it.
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: ducktrapper on January 15, 2015, 09:29:23 AM
A moustache on the Mona Lisa would only be slightly less horrific.  :whistling:  :wink:
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: unclrob on January 15, 2015, 01:35:17 PM
How about a Bigsby on an esquire????
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: ducktrapper on January 15, 2015, 02:10:52 PM
Quote from: unclrob on January 15, 2015, 01:35:17 PM
How about a Bigsby on an esquire????

Frankentar!  :crying:
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Mikeymac on January 15, 2015, 03:10:33 PM
I think it's great, unclrob! Looks like something Les Paul would do - very utilitarian. Make the instrument work for you!  :thumb
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: unclrob on January 15, 2015, 09:45:09 PM
Duck thats frankunsteen,silly human

Rev isn't that what there suppose to be,by the way thats a Larrivee Bakersfield pu in the guitar...sounds wonderful.
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Cybercanyon on January 15, 2015, 10:18:32 PM
I have two Larrivee RS-4s with B3 Bigsby's and Schaller roller bridges on them.  They fit in the Larrivee cases without any problems.  The roller bridges definitely help with better tuning stability.  The B3's are not bolt on however they can be removed.  One my RS-4s has the stock stoptail piece holes and other one (Forum V) does not.

Mike
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: ducktrapper on January 16, 2015, 07:26:17 AM
Well, that's it! You people are insane!   :wink:
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: unclrob on January 16, 2015, 08:40:16 AM
Quote from: ducktrapper on January 16, 2015, 07:26:17 AM
Well, that's it! You people are insane!   :wink:


:? We're here aren't.......silly,silly human. :wave
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Mikeymac on January 16, 2015, 08:44:13 AM
Quote from: Cybercanyon on January 15, 2015, 10:18:32 PM

One my RS-4s has the stock stoptail piece holes and other one (Forum V) does not.


So if you ever wanted to convert your Forum V to non-Bigsby, you'd have to use a wrap around tail-piece... that'd be cool!

Quote from: ducktrapper on January 16, 2015, 07:26:17 AM

Well, that's it! You people are insane!   :wink:


LOL at Tom!  Hah!  :laughin:
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: ducktrapper on January 16, 2015, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: Mikeymac on January 16, 2015, 08:44:13 AM
So if you ever wanted to convert your Forum V to non-Bigsby, you'd have to use a wrap around tail-piece... that'd be cool!

LOL at Tom!  Hah!  :laughin:

All you kids get offa my lawn! 
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Mikeymac on January 16, 2015, 01:14:38 PM
Quote from: ducktrapper on January 16, 2015, 10:28:41 AM
All you kids get offa my lawn! 

Who you callin' "kid"?!   :angry:

I just turned 57!!! (Yikes!)  :bgrin:
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: ducktrapper on January 16, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
Quote from: Mikeymac on January 16, 2015, 01:14:38 PM
Who you callin' "kid"?!   :angry:

I just turned 57!!! (Yikes!)  :bgrin:

I wish I was 57.  :blush:
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: unclrob on January 16, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
Bite me I just turned 59....KIDS...... :cheers
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: ducktrapper on January 16, 2015, 02:57:43 PM
Quote from: unclrob on January 16, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
Bite me I just turned 59....KIDS...... :cheers

I wish I was 59. Sigh.  :doh
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: headsup on January 16, 2015, 03:49:59 PM
Quote from: ducktrapper on January 15, 2015, 09:29:23 AM
A moustache on the Mona Lisa would only be slightly less horrific.  :whistling:  :wink:





hmmmm, to each her own I guess..... :wacko: :arrow
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: ducktrapper on January 16, 2015, 05:12:42 PM
Quote from: headsup on January 16, 2015, 03:49:59 PM




hmmmm, to each her own I guess..... :wacko: :arrow

Yeah, I guess you're right. A moustache on the Mona Lisa would be slightly worse.  :laughin:
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: headsup on January 17, 2015, 10:40:53 AM
I just turned 62 last week, still a kid, still gigging, still crazy, still a wild bigsby kinda guy guy
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: ducktrapper on January 17, 2015, 11:45:32 AM
Quote from: headsup on January 17, 2015, 10:40:53 AM
I just turned 62 last week, still a kid, still gigging, still crazy, still a wild bigsby kinda guy guy

May you sta-ay-ay-ay ... forever young! I'll be 64 this summer. Where did the time go? Will she still love me?  :cheers
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: ST on January 17, 2015, 03:42:27 PM
Sorry to go even further afield, but since we (were) talking Bigsby aesthetics, don't you think the one on the right deserves a Bigsby?


Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: ST on January 17, 2015, 03:43:52 PM
The bridge is *not* a roller bridge, but I've never had an issue with strings binding or going out of tune.

(http://toonz.ca/guitars/images/semis/pr002.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: headsup on January 18, 2015, 08:14:09 PM
there's always this.....
might be nice on any nice Larrivee acoustic  :? :whistling:
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: ducktrapper on January 18, 2015, 09:06:57 PM
Quote from: headsup on January 18, 2015, 08:14:09 PM
there's always this.....
might be nice on any nice Larrivee acoustic  :? :whistling:


Okay, I was kidding before but that is hideous and just plain wrong! 
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: unclrob on January 18, 2015, 09:38:49 PM
I don't have a pix but Marty Stuart has a B-Bender in a Martin.... :ohmy:


I once played a Gretch acoustic with a Bigsby was kinda neat.....
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: igrishenko on January 22, 2015, 12:21:45 AM
Here's my custom one-off RS2 in TV Yellow. It has a Larrivee Mini Humbucker in the neck and a regular bridge humbucker. I installed a Bigsby B5, a Vibramate V5, and a Mighty Mite Roller Bridge.
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: L07 Shooting Star on January 22, 2015, 12:30:19 AM
Quote from: igrishenko on January 22, 2015, 12:21:45 AM
Here's my custom one-off RS2 in TV Yellow. It has a Larrivee Mini Humbucker in the neck and a regular bridge humbucker. I installed a Bigsby B5, a Vibramate V5, and a Mighty Mite Roller Bridge.

And?  How is that working for you?
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Mikeymac on January 22, 2015, 04:23:37 PM
Quote from: igrishenko on January 22, 2015, 12:21:45 AM
Here's my custom one-off RS2 in TV Yellow. It has a Larrivee Mini Humbucker in the neck and a regular bridge humbucker. I installed a Bigsby B5, a Vibramate V5, and a Mighty Mite Roller Bridge.

So I posted this question in the Guitar Registry thread (oops), but the Mighty Mite bridge fits the Larrivee's Tone Pro bridge posts?
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: ST on January 26, 2015, 02:14:53 AM
Can you guys see this?

(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/480218_428902023823476_560525046_n.jpg?oh=32f662f63617a3e4a6f92d93d45b1d0f&oe=555DFE8C)

It's from the Larrivée facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/search/str/larrivee%20forum%20iii/keywords_top
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Cybercanyon on January 26, 2015, 03:41:16 AM
That would be serial #5 Forum V.    :bgrin:
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: igrishenko on January 27, 2015, 07:54:23 PM
Quote from: L07 Shooting Star on January 22, 2015, 12:30:19 AM
And?  How is that working for you?

Sorry I took so long to respond! It's working great! I love everything about it. The Vibramate is a great option, especially if you don't want your Bigsby to be a permanent fixture on your guitar. It's a great tool to have in case you ever want to put your tail piece back on. The I haven't had any issues with the roller bridge and installation was super easy. It just dropped right in place
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Mikeymac on January 27, 2015, 11:12:15 PM
Quote from: ST on January 26, 2015, 02:14:53 AM

Can you guys see this?


So that roller bridge was installed at the factory?
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Cybercanyon on January 28, 2015, 05:26:22 AM
Quote from: Mikeymac on January 27, 2015, 11:12:15 PM
So that roller bridge was installed at the factory?

Yes it was, both of my RS4's with Bigsby's were installed at the factory with the schaller roller bridge.  One has the stop mounts the other one doesn't.
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Mikeymac on January 29, 2015, 12:35:06 AM
Quote from: Cybercanyon on January 28, 2015, 05:26:22 AM
Yes it was, both of my RS4's with Bigsby's were installed at the factory with the schaller roller bridge.  One has the stop mounts the other one doesn't.

"Stop mounts"? Please educate me.  :?
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Cybercanyon on January 30, 2015, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: Mikeymac on January 29, 2015, 12:35:06 AM
"Stop mounts"? Please educate me.  :?

I was referring to the anchor points for theTonePros TailStop Bar.  One RS4 has the anchor points the other RS4 (Forum V) doesn't.
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: headsup on January 31, 2015, 01:14:47 PM
Here is a couple close ups of mine, factory installed, one of two made (bigsby/gold tops).
Anchor stops evident, and I strongly suggest buying the scholar roller bridge with side to side adjustment.

Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Walkerman on June 11, 2015, 12:47:29 PM
OK....I want to install a no drill tremolo and a roller bridge....what parts do I need to order?  Thanks
what is the difference between the bigsby and vibramate?
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: ST on June 11, 2015, 01:36:44 PM
Vibramate = no-drill mounting for a bigsby.

http://vibramate.com
Title: Re: Anyone put Bigsby on RS4 ?
Post by: Walkerman on June 12, 2015, 07:37:34 AM
Has anyone put a B5 on a RS4?  How did it fit?